Live Zen ~ 15
event type | discourse & meditation |
date & time | 6 May 1988 pm |
location | Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune |
language | English |
audio | Available, duration 1h 25min. Quality: good. Osho leading meditation from 1:18:34. Live music after the discourse. |
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video | Available, duration 1h 29min. Quality: good. |
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online text | find the PDF of this discourse |
shorttitle | LIVEZ15 |
- notes
- synopsis
- Reader of the sutras and questions: Ma Prem Maneesha.
After discourse Osho leads Let-Go Meditation.
- The sutra
- Chokei one day said, "Even if you say that the arhats still have three poisons, you should not say that the tathagata has two languages. I do not say that the tathagata has no language but that he does not have two languages."
- Hofuku said, "What is the tathagata's language?"
- Chokei said, "How can a deaf person hear it?"
- Hofuku said, "I know you are speaking from a secondary principle."
- Chokei said, "What is the tathagata's language?"
- Hofuku said, "Have a cup of tea."
- Setcho's commentary is:
- Who speaks from the first, who from the second principle?
- Dragons do not lie in puddles;
- Where dragons lurk, waves arise
- When no wind blows.
- Oh! You, Chokei Zen monk
- You've bruised your head on the dragon gate.
- Question 1
- Osho, with three pounds of drums, she pecks on the lotus leaf. Knowing a spiral when she hears one, she'll be beaten anyway.
- Quetion 2
- Osho, my mind is coming to the boil! It is compelled to try and decipher these stories, even though that feels like reading the epitaph on one's own gravestone.
- So I get my mind out, use it, give up, and put it away.
- Then I get it out again, give up and put it away.
- Then it gets out, uses me, gives up and puts me away.
- I'm going insane or going in Zen! Help!
- No, don't -- keep doing it!
- Or don't stop not doing what you don't do!
- Osho, I take my head off to you.
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