This This A Thousand Times This ~ 15: Difference between revisions
Jump to navigation
Jump to search
(Imported from text file) |
Dhyanantar (talk | contribs) No edit summary |
||
Line 19: | Line 19: | ||
stitle = THIS15 | | stitle = THIS15 | | ||
notes = | | notes = | | ||
syn = Reader of the sutras | syn = Reader of the sutras: [[Ma Prem Maneesha]]. Questions are being read by Osho himself.<br>After discourse Osho leads [[No-Mind Meditation]]. | ||
:The sutras | |||
::Tozan said to Ungan, "Master, if someone asks me a hundred years afterwards what I thought was your deepest understanding, what should I say?" | |||
::Ungan answered, "Tell him I said, 'it is simply this.'" | |||
::Tozan was silent for a time, and Ungan said, "Tozan, if you have grasped this, you must carry it out in detail!" | |||
::Tozan was still silent. Ungan struck him. | |||
::Some years later, when Tozan was holding a service in memory of Ungan's deepest understanding, a monk said to him, "The dead teacher said, 'it is simply this!'" The monk then added: "Is this the yes-saying spirit?" | |||
::"It is," replied Tozan. | |||
::The monk asked, "What does this mean?" | |||
::Tozan said, "At the time Ungan said that, my idea was almost entirely a mistaken one, though I understood what he meant all right." | |||
::"The dead teacher," said the monk, "did he know it, or not?" | |||
::Tozan said, "If he didn't, how could he say such a thing? And if he did, how could he avoid saying it?" | |||
::Other Zen masters expressed the essence of Zen like this: | |||
::Masso said, "Lichen-crusted frogs croak at moonlit mountaintops. | |||
::Awaken, mind's clear at last. | |||
::Refreshing pine winds | |||
::Of the book of songs | |||
::Can't match this." | |||
::Beirei said, "All patriarchs are above our understanding, | |||
::And they don't last forever. | |||
::Oh my disciples, examine, examine. | |||
::What? Why this. This only." | |||
::And Daibai said: | |||
::"I'm one with this, this only. | |||
::You, my disciples, | |||
::Uphold it firmly -- | |||
::Now I can breathe my last." | |||
:Question 1 | |||
::Beloved Osho, if someone asks me a hundred years afterwards, what I thought was your deepest understanding, what should I say? | |||
:([[Glossary#source_of_quotes_in_the_synopsis|source:''CD-ROM'']]) | |||
| | |||
prevevent = This This A Thousand Times This ~ 14 | | prevevent = This This A Thousand Times This ~ 14 | | ||
nextevent = Zen The Quantum Leap ~ 01 | | nextevent = Zen The Quantum Leap ~ 01 | |
Revision as of 06:54, 11 May 2019
event type | discourse & meditation |
date & time | 10 Jun 1988 pm |
location | Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune |
language | English |
audio | Available, duration 1h 0min. Quality: good, but a constant noise (under revision). Osho leading meditation from 47:18. Live music after the discourse. |
online audio | |
video | Available, duration 1h 4min. Quality: good, but Osho leaving is not so good. |
online video | |
see also |
|
online text | find the PDF of this discourse |
shorttitle | THIS15 |
- notes
- synopsis
- Reader of the sutras: Ma Prem Maneesha. Questions are being read by Osho himself.
After discourse Osho leads No-Mind Meditation.
- The sutras
- Tozan said to Ungan, "Master, if someone asks me a hundred years afterwards what I thought was your deepest understanding, what should I say?"
- Ungan answered, "Tell him I said, 'it is simply this.'"
- Tozan was silent for a time, and Ungan said, "Tozan, if you have grasped this, you must carry it out in detail!"
- Tozan was still silent. Ungan struck him.
- Some years later, when Tozan was holding a service in memory of Ungan's deepest understanding, a monk said to him, "The dead teacher said, 'it is simply this!'" The monk then added: "Is this the yes-saying spirit?"
- "It is," replied Tozan.
- The monk asked, "What does this mean?"
- Tozan said, "At the time Ungan said that, my idea was almost entirely a mistaken one, though I understood what he meant all right."
- "The dead teacher," said the monk, "did he know it, or not?"
- Tozan said, "If he didn't, how could he say such a thing? And if he did, how could he avoid saying it?"
- Other Zen masters expressed the essence of Zen like this:
- Masso said, "Lichen-crusted frogs croak at moonlit mountaintops.
- Awaken, mind's clear at last.
- Refreshing pine winds
- Of the book of songs
- Can't match this."
- Beirei said, "All patriarchs are above our understanding,
- And they don't last forever.
- Oh my disciples, examine, examine.
- What? Why this. This only."
- And Daibai said:
- "I'm one with this, this only.
- You, my disciples,
- Uphold it firmly --
- Now I can breathe my last."
- Question 1
- Beloved Osho, if someone asks me a hundred years afterwards, what I thought was your deepest understanding, what should I say?
◄ Previous event | Next event ► |
◄ Previous in series |