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There are now two sources for the discourse dates for ''Koplen'', "Doc X" and the ebook at Osho World. Doc X indicates only a range of dates, Jul 31, 1986 to Aug 9, while OW is much more specific. The last chapter in OW comes after Aug 9. Otherwise they agree, so the OW info will be reproduced below. | |||
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About the title, it is said that it derives from a song by Mehdi Hasssan, reportedly one of Osho's favourite singers. It relates to coming back to India. The lines with the title in it go: | About the title, it is said that it derives from a song by Mehdi Hasssan, reportedly one of Osho's favourite singers. It relates to coming back to India. The lines with the title in it go: | ||
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:S/he has not understood and will not understand, but tell her/him anyway.) | :S/he has not understood and will not understand, but tell her/him anyway.) | ||
:("konpalen" being an alternative transliteration of "koplen") | :("konpalen" being an alternative transliteration of "koplen") | ||
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:11. प्रेम का जादू सिर चढ़ कर बोले | :11. प्रेम का जादू सिर चढ़ कर बोले | ||
:12. कोंपलें फिर फूट आईं शाख पर | :12. कोंपलें फिर फूट आईं शाख पर | ||
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Time and place info from ebook and where it is found therein: | |||
:Ch 1: 31 Jul 1986 3:30 pm at Sumila, Suraj Prakash's house (p 1, no ch title given) | |||
:Ch 2: 1 Aug 1986 4:00 pm Sumila (p 16, title matches ch 2 in TOC) | |||
:Ch 3: 2 Aug 1986 3:30 pm Sumila (p 26, no title given) | |||
:Ch 4: apparently not included in ebook | |||
:Ch 5: 3 Aug 1986 3:30 pm Sumila (p 39, title matches ch 5 in TOC) | |||
:Ch 6: 4 Aug 1986 7:00 pm Sumila (p 51, title matches ch 6 in TOC) | |||
:Ch 7: 5 Aug 1986 7:00 pm Sumila (p 65, title matches ch 7 in TOC) | |||
:Ch 8: 6 Aug 1986 7:00 pm Sumila (p 80, title matches ch 8 in TOC) | |||
:Ch 9: 7 Aug 1986 7:00 pm Sumila (p 98, title matches ch 9 in TOC) | |||
:Ch 10: 8 Aug 1986 7:00 pm Sumila (p 112, title matches ch 10 in TOC) | |||
:Ch 11: 9 Aug 1986 7:00 pm Sumila (p 132, title matches ch 11 in TOC) | |||
:Ch 12: 15 Aug 1986 no time or place given (p 150, title matches ch 12 in TOC): | |||
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This is some fairly complete and internally consistent info for an ebook and fits well with other info, so it may as well be adopted. We might scratch our heads about poor chapter 4, why it is not in the ebook and when could it have been but since the titles match so well with the other source, not much of a problem. Must have been evening of Aug 2 or morning of Aug 3. -- [[User:Sarlo|doofus-9]] ([[User talk:Sarlo|talk]]) 18:50, 13 October 2014 (PDT) | |||
Revision as of 01:50, 14 October 2014
There are now two sources for the discourse dates for Koplen, "Doc X" and the ebook at Osho World. Doc X indicates only a range of dates, Jul 31, 1986 to Aug 9, while OW is much more specific. The last chapter in OW comes after Aug 9. Otherwise they agree, so the OW info will be reproduced below.
About the title, it is said that it derives from a song by Mehdi Hasssan, reportedly one of Osho's favourite singers. It relates to coming back to India. The lines with the title in it go:
- कोंपलें फिर फूट आईं शाख़ पर कहना उसे
- वो न समझा है न समझेगा मगर कहना उसे
- (konpalen phir phoot aayeen, shaakh par, kahnaa use
- woh na samjha hai, na samjhega, magar kahnaa use)
- (Tell her/him fresh buds are sprouting again on the branches.
- S/he has not understood and will not understand, but tell her/him anyway.)
- ("konpalen" being an alternative transliteration of "koplen")
- विषय सूची (TOC):
- 1. आत्मा की अग्नि
- 2. आत्मिक विकास एकमात्र विकास
- 3. शून्य शिखर पर सुख की सेज
- 4. अपने ज्ञान को ध्यान में बदलो
- 5. अपार्थिव तत्व की पहचान
- 6. परम ऐश्वर्य : साक्षीभाव
- 7. जीवित मंदिर मधुशाला है
- 8. सदगुरु शिष्य की मृत्यु है
- 9. ध्यानतंत्र के बिना लोकतंत्र असंभव
- 10. वर्तमान संस्कृति का कैंसर : महत्वाकांक्षा
- 11. प्रेम का जादू सिर चढ़ कर बोले
- 12. कोंपलें फिर फूट आईं शाख पर
Time and place info from ebook and where it is found therein:
- Ch 1: 31 Jul 1986 3:30 pm at Sumila, Suraj Prakash's house (p 1, no ch title given)
- Ch 2: 1 Aug 1986 4:00 pm Sumila (p 16, title matches ch 2 in TOC)
- Ch 3: 2 Aug 1986 3:30 pm Sumila (p 26, no title given)
- Ch 4: apparently not included in ebook
- Ch 5: 3 Aug 1986 3:30 pm Sumila (p 39, title matches ch 5 in TOC)
- Ch 6: 4 Aug 1986 7:00 pm Sumila (p 51, title matches ch 6 in TOC)
- Ch 7: 5 Aug 1986 7:00 pm Sumila (p 65, title matches ch 7 in TOC)
- Ch 8: 6 Aug 1986 7:00 pm Sumila (p 80, title matches ch 8 in TOC)
- Ch 9: 7 Aug 1986 7:00 pm Sumila (p 98, title matches ch 9 in TOC)
- Ch 10: 8 Aug 1986 7:00 pm Sumila (p 112, title matches ch 10 in TOC)
- Ch 11: 9 Aug 1986 7:00 pm Sumila (p 132, title matches ch 11 in TOC)
- Ch 12: 15 Aug 1986 no time or place given (p 150, title matches ch 12 in TOC):
This is some fairly complete and internally consistent info for an ebook and fits well with other info, so it may as well be adopted. We might scratch our heads about poor chapter 4, why it is not in the ebook and when could it have been but since the titles match so well with the other source, not much of a problem. Must have been evening of Aug 2 or morning of Aug 3. -- doofus-9 (talk) 18:50, 13 October 2014 (PDT)
