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:3. As a compilation of three books, the original, ''[[Antar Yatra (अंतर यात्रा)]]'' and ''[[Prabhu Ki Pagdandiyan (प्रभु की पगडंडियां)]]''. | :3. As a compilation of three books, the original, ''[[Antar Yatra (अंतर यात्रा)]]'' and ''[[Prabhu Ki Pagdandiyan (प्रभु की पगडंडियां)]]''. | ||
It was once written here that "the first needs not much elaboration. Obviously, this is the form put out by Jeevan Jagruti Kendra, and likely in other editions since. Its chapters are the first fourteen in the combination books." It now appears likely that this is mostly true but may need some refinement: | |||
:a) Hindi audio sites are fairly consistent in presenting the plain vanilla ''SP'' as having fourteen discourses, which also aligns strongly with the fourteen "original" ''SP'' chapters in most Hindi hard copy. This is the basic truth from which we cannot stray very far. | |||
:b) evidence from English translations suggests somewhat strongly that there were only ten discourse sessions at Ranakpur, and that the first translation, ''[[Path of Self Realization]]'', has those ten augmented by four more from "a subsequent camp in Ajol", this stated in the book. [[Osho Books on CD-ROM|The CD-ROM]] has its translation text taken from ''[[The Perfect Way]]'' and it is only ten chapters/discourses. The Ranch edition of ''The Perfect Way'' really does have only those ten discourses, explicitly from Ranakpur only. | |||
The second is the one put out by Diamond in 2004, and likely in other editions before and after. Its TOC indicates that the first 14 chapters are identical to those of the original. There is only one more chapter and that is titled ''Path Ki Khoj''. That chapter is much longer than any of the others, comprising about a third of the whole book. It appears that its seven chapters have been, at least in this edition, presented as one. Thus, this form could be said to have either 15 or 21 chapters. ''Path Ki Khoj'' has its own complicated story, which will be told on its own page. | So there ya go. We have been led down the ''Garden Path'' before by English translations, in the case of ''[[Main Kahta Aankhan Dekhi (मैं कहता आंखन देखी)]]'' and its sidekick ''[[Gahre Pani Paith (गहरे पानी पैठ)]]'', so we can't be sure at this point what the story is, but it may well be that there are only ten discourses from Ranakpur, and that the "standard" fourteen for this book includes material from Ajol. | ||
The second form above is the one put out by Diamond in 2004, and likely in other editions before and after. Its TOC indicates that the first 14 chapters are identical to those of the original. There is only one more chapter and that is titled ''Path Ki Khoj''. That chapter is much longer than any of the others, comprising about a third of the whole book. It appears that its seven chapters have been, at least in this edition, presented as one. Thus, this form could be said to have either 15 or 21 chapters. ''Path Ki Khoj'' has its own complicated story, which will be told on its own page. | |||
It might also be noted that this Diamond edition is quite short, especially considering that 1/3 of it is taken up with ''Path Ki Khoj'', leaving only 112 pages or so for fourteen chapters worth of ''SP''. What hath Diamond wrought? | |||
The third form is that of the 2013 OMI and earlier editions, with a full-blown 29 chapters, with original book title names preceding each section: | The third form is that of the 2013 OMI and earlier editions, with a full-blown 29 chapters, with original book title names preceding each section: | ||
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Revision as of 19:16, 13 April 2015
If one cruises around in the Indian audio sites, sooner or later the oddness of Sadhana Path's aggregations becomes evident. There are listings for "Sadhana Path - Antar Yatra," "Sadhana Path - Path Ki Khoj" and "Sadhana Path - Prabhu Ki Pagdandiyan," and have long been. As info about the books becomes more available, the picture becomes clearer.
As mentioned on the main page, Sadhana Path's three published book forms (if not more) in Hindi are:
- 1. As itself, the original book with just the discourses from Ranakpur
- 2. As a compilation of two books, the original and Path Ki Khoj (पथ की खोज)
- 3. As a compilation of three books, the original, Antar Yatra (अंतर यात्रा) and Prabhu Ki Pagdandiyan (प्रभु की पगडंडियां).
It was once written here that "the first needs not much elaboration. Obviously, this is the form put out by Jeevan Jagruti Kendra, and likely in other editions since. Its chapters are the first fourteen in the combination books." It now appears likely that this is mostly true but may need some refinement:
- a) Hindi audio sites are fairly consistent in presenting the plain vanilla SP as having fourteen discourses, which also aligns strongly with the fourteen "original" SP chapters in most Hindi hard copy. This is the basic truth from which we cannot stray very far.
- b) evidence from English translations suggests somewhat strongly that there were only ten discourse sessions at Ranakpur, and that the first translation, Path of Self Realization, has those ten augmented by four more from "a subsequent camp in Ajol", this stated in the book. The CD-ROM has its translation text taken from The Perfect Way and it is only ten chapters/discourses. The Ranch edition of The Perfect Way really does have only those ten discourses, explicitly from Ranakpur only.
So there ya go. We have been led down the Garden Path before by English translations, in the case of Main Kahta Aankhan Dekhi (मैं कहता आंखन देखी) and its sidekick Gahre Pani Paith (गहरे पानी पैठ), so we can't be sure at this point what the story is, but it may well be that there are only ten discourses from Ranakpur, and that the "standard" fourteen for this book includes material from Ajol.
The second form above is the one put out by Diamond in 2004, and likely in other editions before and after. Its TOC indicates that the first 14 chapters are identical to those of the original. There is only one more chapter and that is titled Path Ki Khoj. That chapter is much longer than any of the others, comprising about a third of the whole book. It appears that its seven chapters have been, at least in this edition, presented as one. Thus, this form could be said to have either 15 or 21 chapters. Path Ki Khoj has its own complicated story, which will be told on its own page.
It might also be noted that this Diamond edition is quite short, especially considering that 1/3 of it is taken up with Path Ki Khoj, leaving only 112 pages or so for fourteen chapters worth of SP. What hath Diamond wrought?
The third form is that of the 2013 OMI and earlier editions, with a full-blown 29 chapters, with original book title names preceding each section:
साधना पथ (Sadhana Path)
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अंतर्यात्रा (Antar Yatra)
प्रभु की पगडंडियां (Prabhu Ki Pagdandiyan)
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