Talk:Samajvad Arthat Atmaghat (समाजवाद अर्थात् आत्मघात)

The "Samajvad" of this book and the "Samajwad" of Samajwad Se Savdhan are of course the same word, just slightly differently transliterated. They seem to be inconsistent but reflect commonest net usage and findability each for their own cases.

There is a fairly tight thematic unity in the quartet of books that is Swarn Pakhi. This book's title is fully in synch with Samajwad Se Savdhan ("Beware of Socialism"), and Bharat Ke Jalte Prashan ("India's Burning Questions") is right up there as well. We'll see how Swarn Pakhi itself works out; overall, it fits well with Osho's pattern of demolishing the dominant political paradigm of the time and place. Neeten (see Osho Source Book link at his page) writes a great deal about how that played out in the time of these books. He alienated both the committed and the hypocritical Gandhians, which pushed the Gujarati State gov't to retract an offer of land for an ashram and had all kinds of repercussions.

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Neeten's Appendix page is loaded with factual information about Osho's early work, but still in rough form (as of this writing) and not all confirmed for accuracy. When we come to Swarn Pakhi, the über-series, we find the info below, which may be useful if adapted with a little inspiration:

There is only one entry for Swarn Pakhi per se, a single date, Apr 1, 1970 in Bombay. We may suppose that this is one of its discourses, which may be scattered around on different dates, or may be all in one chunk, since there is a decent-size gap following that time (see Osho Discourses 1970). There IS a talk the day before, Mar 31, in Jabalpur, which may or may not be a conflict.

There is stronger info about the other parts of the series, but there are snags there too: There are three entries for Samajwad Se Savdhan, enough for the three other volumes of Swarn Pakhi, and as if that were the über-name. In any case, it is not much of a stretch to take these three entries to refer to the first three volumes, especially as they correspond well regarding discourse counts (5, 5 and 4). The relevant section of the appendix reads:

Samajwad Se Savdhaan. 13-17.03.1970. 5 talks. Bombay. [(Bharat Ke Jalte Prashan (भारत के जलते प्रश्न))]

Vidroh Kya Hai? 31.03.1970. [the talk in Jabalpur]

Swarn Pakhi Tha Jo Kabhi (India, Socialism, Gandhi, Communism). 01.04.1970. Bombay. (A)

Samajvaad Se Saavdhan. 13.04-17.04.1970. [(The real Samajwad Se Savdhan (समाजवाद से सावधान))]

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Samajwad Se Savdhaan. 08-11.08.1970. 4 talks. [(Samajvad Arthat Atmaghat (समाजवाद अर्थात आत्मघात))]

At this point we are in surmise-land, not really proven TRVTH, but it looks good enough for a provisional go, so allons-y. -- Sarlo (talk) 00:07, 1 July 2014 (PDT)

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प्रवचन (TOC):

1. समाजवाद क्या—सिर्फ राजनी‍ति है!

2. समाजवाद : दासता की एक व्यवस्था

3. पूंजीवाद : ज्यादा मानवीय व्यवस्था

4. लोकशाही समाजवाद : एक भ्रांत धारणा

(audio discourse titles, presumed to align with chapter titles)