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===Current Understanding=== | |||
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! event !! audio,<br>OshoWorld !! audio,<br>Osho.com !! Shailendra's PDF,<br>osho.com library !! Dates & Places | |||
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| [[Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 01]] || #2 || 1. चित्त का दर्पण || 1. चित्त का दर्पण || 4 Jun 1967 pm, Meera College, Udaipur | |||
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| [[Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 02]] || #1<br>incomplete || 2. बोध की पहली किरण<br>incomplete || 2. बोध की पहली किरण<br>incomplete || 5 Jun 1967 am, Meera College, Udaipur | |||
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| [[Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 03]] || || 3. चित्त मौन हो<br>incomplete || 3. चित्त मौन हो || 5 Jun 1967 om, Meera College, Udaipur | |||
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| [[Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 04]] || #3 || 4. जीवन का लक्ष्य || 4. जीवन का लक्ष्य || 5 Jun 1967 pm, Meera College, Udaipur | |||
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| [[Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 05]] || #4 || 5. यांत्रिक जीवन से मुक्ति || 5. यांत्रिक जीवन से मुक्ति || 6 Jun 1967 am, Meera College, Udaipur | |||
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| [[Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 06]] || #5<br>incomplete || 6. एक ही मंगल है – जागरण<br>incomplete || 6. एक ही मंगल है--जागरण || 6 Jun 1967 om, Meera College, Udaipur | |||
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| [[Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 07]] || || 7. "not available" || 7. तुम ही हो परमात्मा || 6 Jun 1967 pm, Meera College, Udaipur | |||
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| [[Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 08]] || #6 || 8. अहंकार का भ्रम || 8. अहंकार का भ्रम || 7 Jun 1967 am, Meera College, Udaipur | |||
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| [[Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 09]] || #7<br>incomplete || 9. नई संस्कृति की खोज<br>incomplete || 9. नई संस्कृति की खोज<br>incomplete || 7 Jun 1967 om, Meera College, Udaipur | |||
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| [[Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 10]] || #8 || 10. सत्य है अनुसंधान – मुक्त और स्वतंत्र || 10. सत्य है अनुसंधान -- मुक्त और स्वतंत्र || 7 Jun 1967 pm, Meera College, Udaipur | |||
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===Deliberations=== | |||
The blurb in Hindi about the book says it is from a [[Meditation Camps|meditation camp]] in Udaipur, of which there are not a huge number. This has led to speculation that it is the camp of May 1966 there. This speculation seems reasonable in that the extensive description in [[Sw Anand Neeten|Neeten's]] [http://www.oshosourcebook.com Osho Source Book] of that camp fits quite well. | The blurb in Hindi about the book says it is from a [[Meditation Camps|meditation camp]] in Udaipur, of which there are not a huge number. This has led to speculation that it is the camp of May 1966 there. This speculation seems reasonable in that the extensive description in [[Sw Anand Neeten|Neeten's]] [http://www.oshosourcebook.com Osho Source Book] of that camp fits quite well. | ||
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What does this mean, "AN" and "PN"? Regardless, the missing dates might well be following a common camp pattern of those days: One talk the first night, then three each day for the duration. In that scenario, #2 and 3 would be 5.6.1967, om and pm respectively and #7 would be 6.6.1967, pm. Such a pattern was not the only camp pattern but it was common, and here, it all falls into place. I would bet on that. -- doofus-9 03:22, 28 November 2018 (UTC) | What does this mean, "AN" and "PN"? Regardless, the missing dates might well be following a common camp pattern of those days: One talk the first night, then three each day for the duration. In that scenario, #2 and 3 would be 5.6.1967, om and pm respectively and #7 would be 6.6.1967, pm. Such a pattern was not the only camp pattern but it was common, and here, it all falls into place. I would bet on that. -- doofus-9 03:22, 28 November 2018 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 14:08, 7 May 2020
Current Understanding
| event | audio, OshoWorld |
audio, Osho.com |
Shailendra's PDF, osho.com library |
Dates & Places |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 01 | #2 | 1. चित्त का दर्पण | 1. चित्त का दर्पण | 4 Jun 1967 pm, Meera College, Udaipur |
| Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 02 | #1 incomplete |
2. बोध की पहली किरण incomplete |
2. बोध की पहली किरण incomplete |
5 Jun 1967 am, Meera College, Udaipur |
| Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 03 | 3. चित्त मौन हो incomplete |
3. चित्त मौन हो | 5 Jun 1967 om, Meera College, Udaipur | |
| Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 04 | #3 | 4. जीवन का लक्ष्य | 4. जीवन का लक्ष्य | 5 Jun 1967 pm, Meera College, Udaipur |
| Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 05 | #4 | 5. यांत्रिक जीवन से मुक्ति | 5. यांत्रिक जीवन से मुक्ति | 6 Jun 1967 am, Meera College, Udaipur |
| Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 06 | #5 incomplete |
6. एक ही मंगल है – जागरण incomplete |
6. एक ही मंगल है--जागरण | 6 Jun 1967 om, Meera College, Udaipur |
| Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 07 | 7. "not available" | 7. तुम ही हो परमात्मा | 6 Jun 1967 pm, Meera College, Udaipur | |
| Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 08 | #6 | 8. अहंकार का भ्रम | 8. अहंकार का भ्रम | 7 Jun 1967 am, Meera College, Udaipur |
| Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 09 | #7 incomplete |
9. नई संस्कृति की खोज incomplete |
9. नई संस्कृति की खोज incomplete |
7 Jun 1967 om, Meera College, Udaipur |
| Apne Mahin Tatol ~ 10 | #8 | 10. सत्य है अनुसंधान – मुक्त और स्वतंत्र | 10. सत्य है अनुसंधान -- मुक्त और स्वतंत्र | 7 Jun 1967 pm, Meera College, Udaipur |
Deliberations
The blurb in Hindi about the book says it is from a meditation camp in Udaipur, of which there are not a huge number. This has led to speculation that it is the camp of May 1966 there. This speculation seems reasonable in that the extensive description in Neeten's Osho Source Book of that camp fits quite well.
Publisher status is also attributed to Rebel Publishing House Pvt Ltd and Osho Media International.
And about the eight or ten discourses/chapters, audio sites only have eight, whereas the book seems to have ten. This is somewhat unusual but by no means unprecedented. -- Sarlo (talk) 00:20, 10 July 2014 (PDT)
Jagdish Bharti for this camp states other dates in June 1967, which are free in the Timeline and are certainly possible. (Following discourse was in Chandrapur in 3 days and from Udaipur to Chandrapur is about 1000km):
- #1 - 4.6.1967, 5pm - Med. Camp - Meera Collage, Udaipur
- #2 - date missing, am - Spritual
- #3 - date missing
- #4 - 5.6.1967, pm - Med. Camp - Q & Ans
- #5 - 6.6.1967, am - Med. Camp
- #6 - 6.6.1967, om - Med. Camp - Q & Ans
- #7 - date missing
- #8 - 7.6.1967, am - Med. Camp
- #9 - 7.6.1967, om - Med. Camp - Q & Ans [in fact he indicates "PN" time. He uses for OM - "AN"]
- #10 - 7.6.1967, pm - Med. Camp - Q & Ans
--DhyanAntar 05:46, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
What does this mean, "AN" and "PN"? Regardless, the missing dates might well be following a common camp pattern of those days: One talk the first night, then three each day for the duration. In that scenario, #2 and 3 would be 5.6.1967, om and pm respectively and #7 would be 6.6.1967, pm. Such a pattern was not the only camp pattern but it was common, and here, it all falls into place. I would bet on that. -- doofus-9 03:22, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
