Talk:Na Kano Suna Na Aankhon Dekha (न कानों सुना न आंखों देखा)
All the Indian audio sites dedicated to Osho attest to the existence of this book, with twenty discourses. Osho.com and Tao Vision are the clearest about its contents, with osho.com even supplying discourse titles (below) with the two source series names in the titles. Osho World has an e-book version with the same chapter titles minus the source book names, its TOC suggesting an original book (somewhere?) of ~460 pages.
Diamond Books is still publishing the source books separately, (most recently in 2012). On the other hand they publish Honi Hoye So Hoye (Kabir-Vani) (होनी होय सो होय (कबीर-वाणी)), a five-discourse portion of Honi Hoye So Hoye (होनी होय सो होय) but their own blurb about the book refers to it as chapters 11-15 of Na Kano.
Transliteration oddity dept: कानों should be transliterated as Kanom or Kanon (with the "o" nasalized, as in the Devanagari version) but it's Kano everywhere. It's a nice title, meaning "neither ears to hear nor eyes to see." But lots of odd features. -- Sarlo (talk) 00:19, 7 May 2014 (PDT)
- TOC:
- 1: ‘अकथ कहानी प्रेम की’ : फरीद : खालिस प्रेम
- 2: ‘अकथ कहानी प्रेम की’ : मैं तुमसे बोल रहा हूं
- 3: ‘अकथ कहानी प्रेम की’ : प्रेम प्रसाद है
- 4: ‘अकथ कहानी प्रेम की’ : धर्म समर्पण है
- 5: ‘अकथ कहानी प्रेम की’ : साईं मेरे चंगा कीता
- 6: ‘अकथ कहानी प्रेम की’ : धर्म : एकमात्र क्रांति
- 7: ‘अकथ कहानी प्रेम की’ : धर्म मोक्ष है
- 8: ‘अकथ कहानी प्रेम की’ : प्रेम महामृत्यु है
- 9: ‘अकथ कहानी प्रेम की’ : इसी क्षण उत्सव है
- 10: ‘अकथ कहानी प्रेम की’ : समाधि समाधान है
- 11: ‘होनी होय सो होय’ : मंगन से क्या मांगिए
- 12: ‘होनी होय सो होय’ : छाया मत छूना मन
- 13: ‘होनी होय सो होय’ : मैं अपने साहब संग चली
- 14: ‘होनी होय सो होय’ : मधुर मधुर मेरे दीपक जल
- 15: ‘होनी होय सो होय’ : पीवन रामरस लगी खुमारी
- 16: ‘होनी होय सो होय’ : सत्संग
- 17: ‘होनी होय सो होय’ : पी ले प्याला हो मतवाला
- 18: ‘होनी होय सो होय’ : प्रज्ञा संन्यास है
- 19: ‘होनी होय सो होय’ : सखि, वह घर सबसे न्यारा
- 20: ‘होनी होय सो होय’ : नेति-नेति
Just a question (but probably no known answer): Was this book, Na Kano Suna Na Aankhon Dekha, published before or after Akath Kahani Prem Ki (अकथ कहानी प्रेम की) (1992 or earlier) and Honi Hoye So Hoye (होनी होय सो होय) (2012) ?
OshoWorld call their 20 audios Na Kano Suna, but dividing them in two titles seems more logical to me: different subject and more than 4 years apart. --Sugit (talk) 11:02, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
It says on the article page that no trace has thus far been found of an actual printed book, so never mind any before or after anything. That said, i went to look to see if anything popped up and found a few things, enough to keep me busy. It did show up in a list of more Osho books from Diamond at the back of another book, so evidently it was once published. That second book didn't have a pub date evident, nor could one be found with an isbn search except for one seller said 2015, implausible and even if correct, so what? It would not be the earlier printing / pub date.
All is not lost though. The second book has a companion book -- its "parent", Dhyan-Sutra (ध्यान-सूत्र) was split into two parts -- and the third book does have a date, 2004. That third book has a slightly earlier ISBN (by nine books) so it is likely that the book list (with Na Kano) was current as of 2004-2005. The second book, with the book list mentioning Na Kano, is Dhyan-Sutra: Antim Yatra (ध्यान-सूत्र : अन्तिम यात्रा),
I will work up the two halves of Dhyan Sutra when i can. Also found to my embarrassment that the Devanagari of "Na" is wrong, i made it the equivalent of Naa, so will change that. You can delete the old version.
About two titles / one title, "logical" doesn't necessarily cut it in this world. And the Hindi books of Kabir seem to have a strange tradition, ie they are combined into pairs for some reason, so this has probably influenced the OW choice. See Kahai Kabir Main Pura Paya (कहै कबीर मैं पूरा पाया) for an example of two Kabir books two years apart. And probably there was one Kabir book left out so they merged it with Farid.
You may remember the story of when Kabir met Farid, both their sanghas were really looking forward to a great event, two enlightened beings meeting, what will happen?, but in the event they just hung out in silence for two days, occasionally a hug or a giggle, and then went their separate ways. Perhaps this is so when their books meet too. -- doofus-9 (talk) 05:10, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
About your "Devanagari of "Na" is wrong" : Would be better to move the page then, or? (That will also move the history and the Talk page.) Can you do moving or should I?
- Some sources mentiones a little other titles:
- a) न आंखों देखा न कानों सुना (a list from Osho Diary 1997);
- b) Na Aankhon Ne Dekha Na Kano Ne Suna (न आंखों ने देखा न कानों ने सुना) (Hindi Books in Print Lists#Mar 1970
- Do these titles belong to the same book?--DhyanAntar 08:34, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
OW has e-book.--DhyanAntar 16:07, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
