Talk:Letters to Anandmayee
The letters Osho wrote to Anandmayee have several recurring features which are noted in the table below so as to discern any patterns. Potential patterns revolve around a few things:
- 1. Blue numbers in circles are found in most letters early in the series, then none, then they re-appear.
- 2. Red tick marks mostly in the upper area above the salutation. It is not known who wrote these marks and numbers, when or why.
- 3. Dates: File numbers of letters with known dates are mostly in chronological order, with some jumps. It may be that the undated ones appear in that same chronological order, amongst them.
- 4. The "115" in the Mahakoshal / Yogesh Bhavan letterhead is handwritten, and is actually missing in some letters.
- 5. Watermark Some letters have a watermark, "JUPITER BOND", in ALL-CAPS, with "JUPITER" arcing over "BOND". Last letter "D" is stylized.
- 6. Pale blue marks in various places of varying shapes and oddnesses.
- 7. Whether published in Kranti Beej (क्रांति बीज) or Bhavna Ke Bhojpatron Par Osho (भावना के भोजपत्रों पर ओशो), and if the latter, page number in Diamond's 2002 edition.
|File #||Date||Blue #||115||notes and comments||Pub?|
|786||22 Nov 1960||none||no||Y||no "blue #" in circle but a black "no. 1" upper center|
|787||undated 001||2||yes||N||has a watermark, but backward, as if printed on Verso|
|788||25 Nov 1960||3||yes||----||different letterhead|
|789||29 Nov 1960||4||no||Y|
|791||8 Dec 1960||5||no||N||same number 5 as 790|
|792||15 Dec 1960 pm||6||yes||Y||has a pale blue "7" without a circle in the middle (it looks as footprint from other sheet) in addition to its "6", + has a watermark|
|793||15 Dec 1960 om||6||no||Y||same remarks as 792 but has no watermark, nb written EARLIER than 792|
|794||27 Dec 1960||yes||N||but the "blue 5" is scratched out, and the red tick is on the right side, not the left|
|795||3 Jan 1961||none||yes||N||date on top, pale blue "6" (no circle) in middle top, and red tick is on the right side|
|796||4 Jan 1961||none||no||N||no marks except an undecipherable pale blue one middle right. "Appendix" format whereby all three family members addressed separately? Has a watermark, backward.|
|798||2? Feb 1961 am||none||no||N||no marks except a pale blue scribble middle top. "Postscript" only format, addressing two unreadable names. "2?" signifies twenty-something. **|
|799||28 Feb 1961 xm||none||no||N||no marks except a pale blue scribble middle top, very similar to 798's scribble. Addressed only to Anandmayee.|
|800||undated 003||none||yes||N||no marks except a red tick right top, signed only with "xxx"|
|801||10 Jan 1961||none||no||N||no marks at all, unaddressed. The first to be "out of order" chronologically with respect to file number.|
|802||26 Jan 1961||none||no||N||only mark is a small pale blue group, meaning unknown. Sent from Sagar, Republic Day acknowledged.||Bhav p 76|
|803||18 Jan 1961 xm||none||no||N||only marks are a vertical line of small pale blue marks, meaning unknown. "Out of order" chronologically.|
|804||30 Jan 1961 am||none||yes||N||has a red tick mark, a pale blue number (not in a circle), "39", and a watermark.|
|805||30 Jan 1961 om||none||no||N||has only a watermark, no greeting, only a PS|
|806||7 Feb 1961 xm||none||no||N||has a couple of pale blue figures of unknown meaning and a watermark|
|807||5 Oct 1960||none||no||Y||has a pale blue figure of unknown meaning and a watermark, "out of order" chronologically|
|12 Feb 1961||none||yes||N||809 has the red tick + some upcoming event info, including a "115 Napier Town". 808 has the date, mentioning "Sunday", + a pale blue figure||Bhav p 80|
|810||undated||none||no||N||no marks except a pale blue scribble left middle. "Postscript" only format, addressing two names, Shree Parakh Ji and G. Padam (?)|
|811||8 Mar 1961 am||none||no||N||no marks except a small group of pale blue marks left top.|
|812||16 Mar 1961 pm||none||no||N||no marks, no sig|
|813||undated||none||no||N||no marks except a small black line middle top, likely not meaningful.|
|814||26 Mar 1961 pm||none||no||N||no marks except a small group of pale blue marks left top.|
|815||15 Apr 1961 am||none||no||----||different letterhead, no marks except a couple of pale blue marks middle top.|
|816||undated||none||no||N||no marks except a couple of pale blue marks in the text middle top.|
|25 Apr 1961 am||none||yes||----||same letterhead as 815 / 15 Apr, with a red tick mark and a couple of pale blue marks left top.
See Talk:Letter written on 25 Apr 1961 om for the beginning of clarity regarding the blue marks.
|Bhav p 90|
|819||4 May 1961 am||2||no||----||different letterhead (contains "115"), blue number in circle (2) re-appears, top right.|
|"819" below in 5th column indicates the style of letterhead found in #819 above, a new default letterhead. And fwiw, about 60% of them up to #842 can be seen to have a new, different watermark, "SUNLIT BOND", similarly arcing. Some that are seen are fairly faint and some letters where it is not seen have marks which MAY be part of this watermark, so the borderline is not well defined, and it may not matter.|
|820||5 May 1961 xm||2||no||819||has a blue number (2) as above, pale blue mirror-image "26" up top.|
|821||13 May 1961||3||no||819||has a blue number 3 the only mark|
|822||8 Jun 1961||4||yes||819||has a blue number 4, red tick mark and pale blue figure|
|823||3 Jul 1961 am||5||yes||819||has a blue number 5, red tick mark, pale blue figure plus a new blue tick mark|
|824||10 Jul 1961 om||6||no||819||has a blue number 6 and a pale blue unknown figure|
|825||12 Jul 1961||8||no||819||has a blue number 8 and a pale blue unknown figure|
|826||3 Jul 1961 am||5||yes||819||a duplicate / another photo of the same letter as 823|
|827||26 Jul 1961||10||yes||819||has a blue number 10, red tick mark and pale blue mirror-image "35" in upper left margin|
|828||22 Jul 1961 om||9?||yes||819||has a blue number 9 (needs verification), red tick mark, pale blue mirror-image "34" upper left and a second mystery pale blue mark top right|
|829||29 Jul 1961||11||yes||819||has a blue number 11, red tick mark and pale blue mirror-image "36" in middle at top|
|830||2 Aug 1961 om||12||yes||819||has a blue number 12, red tick mark and pale blue mirror-image "37" in middle at top, plus the blue tick mark seen in 823|
|831||4 Aug 1961 am||14||yes||819||has a blue number 14, red tick mark and pale blue mirror-image "38" in middle at top|
|832||5 Aug 1961||13||yes||819||has a blue number 13, red tick mark and a group of pale blue marks middle left plus a blue tick mark|
|837||12 Aug 1961||15||yes||819||has a blue number 15, red tick mark and a pale blue mirror-image "40"(?) middle left|
|838||20 Aug 1961 om||16||no||819||has a blue number 16 and a pale blue mark bottom right|
|839||23 Aug 1961 om||18||yes||819||has a blue number 18, red tick mark and a pale blue mirror-image "43" middle top|
|840||29 Aug 1961 am||17||yes||819||has a blue number 17, red tick mark and a pale blue mirror-image "42" middle top|
|841||2 Sep 1961 pm||20||yes||819||has a blue number 20, red tick mark and a black, straight (non-mirror-image) "45" bottom right|
|842||2 Sep 1961 pm
|19||yes||819||has a blue number 19 (needs verification), red tick mark, a black, straight "44" and a pale blue mirror-image "44", both bottom right (see Talk:Letter written on 2 Sep 1961 pm (2))|
|843||18 Sep 1961||21||yes||819||has a blue number 21, red tick mark and a black, straight "47" bottom right|
|24 Sep 1961||22||yes||819||has a blue number 22, red tick mark and a black, straight "48" bottom right, PS on back side|
|847||26 Sep 1961 pm||23||yes||819||has a blue number 23, red tick mark and a black, straight "49" bottom right|
|848||6 Oct 1961||24||yes||819||has a blue number 24, red tick mark and a black number 50 bottom right|
|849||10 Oct 1961||25||yes||819||has a blue number 25, red tick mark and a black number 51 bottom right|
|850||14 Oct 1961||26||yes||819||has a blue number 26, red tick mark and a black number 52 bottom right|
|851||30 Oct 1961 am||29||yes||819||has a blue number 29, red tick mark and a black number 55 bottom right|
|852||17 Oct 1961||27||yes||819||has a blue number 27, red tick mark and a black number 53 bottom right|
Sarloji, my proposal for undated letter is to keep them in guessed period, i.e. to put them near by known letters. E.g. Undated Letter written to Anandmayee 001 to Timeline 1960. Or will we cut off guessed period and to put them to Timeline year unknown?--DhyanAntar 06:48, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
New organization of the data above keeps them arranged in file # order, so it's easy to keep track. The undated ones can go in Timeline year unknown, actually MUST go there, but there they can have the year as "1960?" or whatever year /month their dated adjacent file #s have. The blue numbers may eventually assist in pointing toward their place in the chrono order. Or may not. -- doofus-9 07:55, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
And the blue numbers and red ticks keep getting weirder and more chaotic. Hard to imagine they will ever point to something systematic. -- doofus-9 06:33, 8 November 2019 (UTC)