Talk:Tao Upanishad, Bhag 5 (ताओ उपनिषद, भाग पांच)

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TOC below is from the audiobook places, osho.com and Osho World. Titles are the same in each except in four cases, with OW and o.com winning two preferences each, if it matters. The discourse numbering is also the same, with numbers going from 1 to 127 over the six volumes of this mega-series, with each volume comprising 21 talks except for the first one, which has 22. Thus this volume is numbered from 86 to 106. -- doofus-9 06:32, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

86. आत्म-ज्ञान ही सच्चा ज्ञान है
87. धारणारहित सत्य और शर्तरहित श्रद्धा
88. जीवन और मृत्यु के पार
89. ताओ या धर्म पारनैतिक है
90. पुनः अपने मूल स्रोत से जुड़ो [मूल स्रोत are rendered as one word by o.com, two words preferred by G**gle Translate. Shailendra and the Image of TOC states as two words too.]
91. धर्म का मुख्य पथ सरल है
92. संगठन, संप्रदाय, समृद्धि, समझ और सुरक्षा
93. धर्म है समग्र के स्वास्थ्य की खोज
94. शिशुवत चरित्र ताओ का लक्ष्य है
95. सत्य कह कर भी नहीं कहा जा सकता [कह कर are rendered as one word by o.com, two words preferred by me and Shailendra and the Image of TOC.]
96. आदर्श रोग है; सामान्य व स्वयं होना स्वास्थ्य [सामान्य is rendered as सामाय by OW, former is preferred by G**gle Translate. Shailendra and the Image of TOC states as two words too.]
97. शासन जितना कम हो उतना ही शुभ
98. नियमों का नियम प्रेम व स्वतंत्रता है
99. मेरी बातें छत पर चढ़ कर कहो
100. कृष्ण में राम और रावण आलिंगन में हैं [और is replaced by a hyphen by OW, और is preferred by me. Shailendra e-book also has और.]
101. स्त्रैण गुण से बड़ी कोई शक्ति नहीं
102. ताओ की भेंट श्रेयस्कर है
103. स्वादहीन का स्वाद लो
104. जो प्रारंभ है वही अंत है
105. वे वही सीखते हैं जो अनसीखा है [corrected the third word according to the image of TOC. Was सिखाते instead third word. See notes below.]
106. धर्म की राह ही उसकी मंजिल है

Does the 2003 edition of Rebel exist? as well as 2003 edition of Tao Upanishad, Bhag 6 (ताओ उपनिषद, भाग छह) by Rebel too. Both ISBNs have wrong check digits. I would say that these two numbers should be swapped, as in previous editions (1995-1996) of the books they mentioned, but with the correct check digit. And part of ISBN, which indicates a registered book number (in this case, the penultimate three digits) are in order for first editions of Rebel: from vol. 2 to vol. 6 are 035-039. --DhyanAntar 07:00, 29 September 2017 (UTC)


Assuming the 2003 to exist (no reason not to), have changed the ISBN per your ideas which seem sound.

Note: Source for 1995 edition info is Jain Library. -- doofus-9 18:16, 29 September 2017 (UTC)


Shailendra stated that "title of ch.105 वे वही सीखते हैं जो अनसीखा है is CORRECT, wiki has वे वही सिखाते हैं जो अनसीखा है - WRONG.

Here you can understand the problem of transliteration- for both words there is only one spelling in English- SIKHATE, but सिखाते means TEACH and सीखते means LEARN, just opposite." --DhyanAntar 14:33, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Recently, we have learned in the wiki to transliterate these things differently, sometimes; and this should be one of those times, so SEEKHATE for the latter word. Not that we wouldn't continue to make mistakes -- doofus-9 05:52, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Tao Upanishad Bhag 5 86-106 D&P.jpg

Dates and Places info has been supplied by Jagdish, image right, click to enlarge. Since Pune dates are well-known for most series, including this one, no need to make a text equivalent. One fact not known before is the Q&A form of the seventh discourse. In some Bhags, Q&A discourses appear quite regularly, every seventh talk, so a couple more may turn up eventually to make that the case here too. -- doofus-9 05:52, 30 January 2019 (UTC)