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:The sutra
::Enlightenment: the key
::Some take sitting wordlessly with eyes shut beneath the black mountain, inside the ghost cave, and consider it as the scene on the other side of the primordial buddha, the scene before their parents were born -- they also call it "silent yet ever illuminating," and consider it ch'an. This lot don't seek subtle wondrous enlightenment: They consider enlightenment as falling into the secondary. They think that enlightenment deceives people, that enlightenment is a fabrication. Since they've never awakened themselves, they don't believe anyone has awakened.
::There's a kind acting as teachers spreading false talk who tell students, "Just preserve stillness." Asked, "What thing is this, preserving? Who is the still one?" They say, "The still one is the basis." Yet they don't believe that the enlightened one exists: They say that the enlightened one is an offshoot, and quote this from Yang Shan:
::A monk asked Yang Shan, "Do people these days still make use of enlightenment or not?" Yang Shan said, "Though enlightenment is not absent, nevertheless it falls into the secondary: Don't talk of dreams in front of fools." Then they understand this literally as a real doctrine, and say that enlightenment is secondary.
::Such people scarcely realize that Kuei Shan himself had a saying to alert students; indeed, it's very cogent: "Enlightenment is the standard for investigating the ultimate truth through to the end."
::Where do those false teachers put these words? It's impossible that Kuei Shan was bringing doubts and error to later people by having them fall into the secondary.
 
 
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event type discourse
date & time 18 Aug 1987 pm
location Chuang Tzu Auditorium, Pune
language English
audio Available, duration 1h 31min. Quality: good.
online audio
video Available, duration 1h 35min. Quality: good.
online video
see also
online text find the PDF of this discourse
shorttitle TAHUI34
notes
synopsis
Reader of the sutras: Ma Prem Maneesha.
The sutra
Enlightenment: the key
Some take sitting wordlessly with eyes shut beneath the black mountain, inside the ghost cave, and consider it as the scene on the other side of the primordial buddha, the scene before their parents were born -- they also call it "silent yet ever illuminating," and consider it ch'an. This lot don't seek subtle wondrous enlightenment: They consider enlightenment as falling into the secondary. They think that enlightenment deceives people, that enlightenment is a fabrication. Since they've never awakened themselves, they don't believe anyone has awakened.
There's a kind acting as teachers spreading false talk who tell students, "Just preserve stillness." Asked, "What thing is this, preserving? Who is the still one?" They say, "The still one is the basis." Yet they don't believe that the enlightened one exists: They say that the enlightened one is an offshoot, and quote this from Yang Shan:
A monk asked Yang Shan, "Do people these days still make use of enlightenment or not?" Yang Shan said, "Though enlightenment is not absent, nevertheless it falls into the secondary: Don't talk of dreams in front of fools." Then they understand this literally as a real doctrine, and say that enlightenment is secondary.
Such people scarcely realize that Kuei Shan himself had a saying to alert students; indeed, it's very cogent: "Enlightenment is the standard for investigating the ultimate truth through to the end."
Where do those false teachers put these words? It's impossible that Kuei Shan was bringing doubts and error to later people by having them fall into the secondary.


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