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===Current understanding=== | ===Current understanding=== | ||
This has been possible thanks to the research of [[Sw Antar Rahi]], who has compared the available texts and audio. | |||
Main findings: | Main findings: | ||
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! event !! | ! event !! audio OshoWorld !! audio Osho.com !! Shailendra's PDF !! Oshoganga !! dates & places | ||
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| [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 01]] || 1. जीवन एक पूजा || 1. जीवन एक पूजा | | [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 01]] || #1. 68min<br>incomplete || 1. जीवन एक पूजा 68min<br>incomplete || 1. जीवन एक पूजा '''(*1)''' || 1. जीवन एक पूजा '''(*1)''' || unknown | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[Yuvak Aur Yaun ~ | | [[Yuvak Aur Yaun ~ 07]] '''(*2)''' || #2. 71min || ''Yuvak Aur Yaun'' 6. युवा चित्त का जन्म 70min || | ||
* ''Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Or'' 12. युवा चित्त का जन्म | * ''Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Or'' 12. युवा चित्त का जन्म | ||
* ''Yuvak Aur Yaun'' 7. युवा चित्त का जन्म | * ''Yuvak Aur Yaun'' 7. युवा चित्त का जन्म | ||
|| ''Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Aur'' 12. युवा चित्त का जन्म || 20 Aug 1969 pm, [[wikipedia:Ahmedabad | Ahmedabad]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
| [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 02]] || 2. जीवन की कला || 2. जीवन की कला || 2. जीवन की कला | | [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 02]] || #3. 63min || 2. जीवन की कला 64min || 2. जीवन की कला || 2. जीवन की कला || unknown | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 03]] || 3. अकेले होने का साहस | | [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 03]] || #4. 50min<br>incomplete || 3. Talk 3 49min '''(*3)'''<br>incomplete || 3. अकेले होने का साहस<br>incomplete || 3.अकेले होने का साहस<br>incomplete || unknown | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 04]] || 4. सामूहिक जीवन || | | [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 04]] || #5. 11min<br>beginning and end incomplete || 3. Talk 4 12min '''(*3)'''<br>beginning and end incomplete || 4. सामूहिक जीवन<br>beginning and end incomplete || 4. सामूहिक जीवन<br>beginning and end incomplete || unknown | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 05]] || | | [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 05]] || #6. 35min || 4. अंतर की खोज 35min '''(*4)''' || 5. अंतर की खोज || 5. अंतर की खोज || unknown | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 06]] || | | [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 06]] || #7. 69min<br>only beginning incomplete (some untranscribed text in the end) || 5. विचार और अंतर-बोध 70min '''(*4)'''<br>"Incomplete" (beginning incomplete and end incomplete) || 6. विचार और अंतर-बोध<br>beginning incomplete || 6. विचार और अंतर-बोध<br>beginning incomplete || unknown | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 07]] || 7. नानक दुखिया सब संसार || 7. नानक दुखिया सब संसार || | | [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 07]] || || 6. "Audio Not Available" || 7. नानक दुखिया सब संसार || 7. नानक दुखिया सब संसार || unknown | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | [[Sambodhi Ke Kshan ~ 04]] || #8. 75min<br>end can be incomplete || ''Sambodhi Ke Kshan'' 4. क्षण-क्षण जीना 75 min '''(*5)'''<br>end can be incomplete || ''Sambodhi Ke Kshan'' 5. क्षण-क्षण जीना || ''Sambodhi Ke Kshan'' 5. क्षण-क्षण जीना || 1969 | ||
|} | |} | ||
;notes | ;notes | ||
: (*1) | : (*1) Shailendra's PDF (from p.17) and Oshoganga has text that missing on audios. It seems it is continuous answer of question being asked before (confirmed by a Hindi friend). | ||
: (*2) See [[Talk:Yuvak Aur Yaun (युवक और यौन)|Talk:Yuvak Aur Yaun]] and [[Talk:Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Or (संभोग से समाधि की ओर)|Talk:Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Or]]. | |||
: (* | : (*3) These two audios are selling as one on osho.com. No title. In the Khajana collection, hearing from the audio, it has clearly been split, with numbers #03 and #04. | ||
: (*4) In the Khajana collection the number is one higher because of the split, see (*3). | |||
: (*5) In Khajana collection it is ''Sambodhi Ke Kshan'' #5. | |||
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'Could not find relation of this series with ''[[Jeevan Rahasya (जीवन रहस्य)]]'' mentioned in [[Shifting content in Hindi books (source document)]]. It needs to check more sources for research of this relation.--DhyanAntar 04:12, 15 August 2020 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 13:17, 5 July 2021
Current understanding
This has been possible thanks to the research of Sw Antar Rahi, who has compared the available texts and audio.
Main findings:
- This series has 7 events, not 8.
- Two audios from OW are not in fact from this original series.
| event | audio OshoWorld | audio Osho.com | Shailendra's PDF | Oshoganga | dates & places |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 01 | #1. 68min incomplete |
1. जीवन एक पूजा 68min incomplete |
1. जीवन एक पूजा (*1) | 1. जीवन एक पूजा (*1) | unknown |
| Yuvak Aur Yaun ~ 07 (*2) | #2. 71min | Yuvak Aur Yaun 6. युवा चित्त का जन्म 70min |
|
Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Aur 12. युवा चित्त का जन्म | 20 Aug 1969 pm, Ahmedabad |
| Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 02 | #3. 63min | 2. जीवन की कला 64min | 2. जीवन की कला | 2. जीवन की कला | unknown |
| Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 03 | #4. 50min incomplete |
3. Talk 3 49min (*3) incomplete |
3. अकेले होने का साहस incomplete |
3.अकेले होने का साहस incomplete |
unknown |
| Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 04 | #5. 11min beginning and end incomplete |
3. Talk 4 12min (*3) beginning and end incomplete |
4. सामूहिक जीवन beginning and end incomplete |
4. सामूहिक जीवन beginning and end incomplete |
unknown |
| Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 05 | #6. 35min | 4. अंतर की खोज 35min (*4) | 5. अंतर की खोज | 5. अंतर की खोज | unknown |
| Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 06 | #7. 69min only beginning incomplete (some untranscribed text in the end) |
5. विचार और अंतर-बोध 70min (*4) "Incomplete" (beginning incomplete and end incomplete) |
6. विचार और अंतर-बोध beginning incomplete |
6. विचार और अंतर-बोध beginning incomplete |
unknown |
| Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 07 | 6. "Audio Not Available" | 7. नानक दुखिया सब संसार | 7. नानक दुखिया सब संसार | unknown | |
| Sambodhi Ke Kshan ~ 04 | #8. 75min end can be incomplete |
Sambodhi Ke Kshan 4. क्षण-क्षण जीना 75 min (*5) end can be incomplete |
Sambodhi Ke Kshan 5. क्षण-क्षण जीना | Sambodhi Ke Kshan 5. क्षण-क्षण जीना | 1969 |
- notes
- (*1) Shailendra's PDF (from p.17) and Oshoganga has text that missing on audios. It seems it is continuous answer of question being asked before (confirmed by a Hindi friend).
- (*2) See Talk:Yuvak Aur Yaun and Talk:Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Or.
- (*3) These two audios are selling as one on osho.com. No title. In the Khajana collection, hearing from the audio, it has clearly been split, with numbers #03 and #04.
- (*4) In the Khajana collection the number is one higher because of the split, see (*3).
- (*5) In Khajana collection it is Sambodhi Ke Kshan #5.
'Could not find relation of this series with Jeevan Rahasya (जीवन रहस्य) mentioned in Shifting content in Hindi books (source document). It needs to check more sources for research of this relation.--DhyanAntar 04:12, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
