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From the | From [[Osho Books on CD-ROM|the CD-ROM / Osho books database]], some info about the sources for the chapters of this only partly published collection. Note that the CD-ROM is not consistent in indicating the original language of the talks in this group, ie failing at times to note translations from Hindi. | ||
Ch 1: Jun 3, 1969, Udaipur, no title | :Ch 1: Jun 3, 1969, Udaipur, no title | ||
Ch 2: Oct 1, 1969, Pahalgam, title: No Mission, No Message | :Ch 2: Oct 1, 1969, Pahalgam, title: No Mission, No Message | ||
NB date may or may not be in the range for the [[Mahavir Meri Drishti Mein (महावीर मेरी दृष्टि में)]] [[Meditation Camps |meditation camp]], given in Pahalgam, starting Sep 17 but ending, depending on source, somewhere from Sep 29 to Oct 2. A tiny quibble: CD-ROM gives time as pm but archive code (6910010) indicates am. And likely we have also to fit ''Early Talks'' #7 into this camp time too (see below), so two non-Mahavir discourses during this time. | |||
Ch 3: Aug 26, 1970, CCI Chambers, | :Ch 3: Aug 26, 1970, CCI Chambers, Mumbai, no title | ||
Ch 4: Sep 22, 1970, CCI Chambers, | :Ch 4: Sep 22, 1970, CCI Chambers, Mumbai, no title | ||
Ch 5: Oct 2, 1970, Manali, no title | :Ch 5: Oct 2, 1970, Manali, no title | ||
NB this is the same time (and place, Manali camp) as another discourse published as Chapter 15 of ''[[Krishna Smriti (कृष्ण-स्मृति)]] / [[Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy]]''. A Q&A omitted from that book? | |||
Ch 6: no data, published 1990 in Osho Times | :Ch 6: no data, published 1990 in Osho Times | ||
Ch 7: sometime in 1969, Pahalgam, title: Osho confronts the followers of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi | :Ch 7: sometime in 1969, Pahalgam, title: Osho confronts the followers of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi | ||
NB Osho was invited to address them, as Maharishi was holding a camp in Pahalgam at that time too. For now assuming that was during the same camp as ch 2 above, so Sep or early Oct. Assuming the literal truth of the statement that this addressing of Maharishi's followers was Osho's first speaking in public in English, then ch 2 above is possibly not English but a translation. | |||
Ch 8: Sep 11, 1980, Pune, title: Bhuribai | :Ch 8: Sep 11, 1980, Pune, title: Bhuribai | ||
NB Original discourse was part of [[Jyun Tha Tyun Thahraya (ज्यूं था त्यूं ठहराया)|Jyun Tha Tyun Tharaya]], an otherwise not-yet translated Hindi series. Perhaps it qualified as an "early talk" since it concerned Bhuribai, a silent female mystic who had her own entourage and brought them to Osho's first camp at Ranakpur | |||
Ch 9: no time or place, title: Women Mystics | :Ch 9: no time or place, title: Women Mystics | ||
NB the CD-ROM gives the date for this chapter as Jun 30, 1969, but this is bogus, since the chapter is a compilation, with its components cited as follows: The section on Meera is translated from ''[[Maine Ram Ratan Dhan Payo (मैंने राम रतन धन पायो)|Maine Ram Ratan Dhan Payo]]'' (Oct 1977); on Sahajo, translated from ''[[Bin Ghan Parat Phuhar (बिन घन परत फुहार)|Bin Ghan Parat Phuhar]]'' (Oct 1975); and on Daya, ''[[Jagat Taraiya Bhor Ki (जगत तरैया भोर की)|Jagat Taraiya Bhor Ki]]'' (Mar 1977), that book now fully translated as ''[[The Last Morning Star]]''. So as with ch 8, these are not "true" early talks. | |||
Ch 10: no time or place, title: Man & God -- The Spiritual Dimension of Life | :Ch 10: no time or place, title: Man & God -- The Spiritual Dimension of Life | ||
NB CD-ROM notes that this discourse was Part 3, ch 1 of ''[[The Mind of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh]]'' | |||
Ch 11: no time or place, title: Man & Man | :Ch 11: no time or place, title: Man & Man | ||
NB CD-ROM notes that this discourse was Part 3, ch 2 of ''[[The Mind of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh]]'' <br> | |||
-- [[User:Sarlo| | -- updated [[User:Sarlo|doofus-9]] ([[User talk:Sarlo|talk]]) 18:15, 25 March 2015 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 18:15, 25 March 2015
From the CD-ROM / Osho books database, some info about the sources for the chapters of this only partly published collection. Note that the CD-ROM is not consistent in indicating the original language of the talks in this group, ie failing at times to note translations from Hindi.
- Ch 1: Jun 3, 1969, Udaipur, no title
- Ch 2: Oct 1, 1969, Pahalgam, title: No Mission, No Message
NB date may or may not be in the range for the Mahavir Meri Drishti Mein (महावीर मेरी दृष्टि में) meditation camp, given in Pahalgam, starting Sep 17 but ending, depending on source, somewhere from Sep 29 to Oct 2. A tiny quibble: CD-ROM gives time as pm but archive code (6910010) indicates am. And likely we have also to fit Early Talks #7 into this camp time too (see below), so two non-Mahavir discourses during this time.
- Ch 3: Aug 26, 1970, CCI Chambers, Mumbai, no title
- Ch 4: Sep 22, 1970, CCI Chambers, Mumbai, no title
- Ch 5: Oct 2, 1970, Manali, no title
NB this is the same time (and place, Manali camp) as another discourse published as Chapter 15 of Krishna Smriti (कृष्ण-स्मृति) / Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy. A Q&A omitted from that book?
- Ch 6: no data, published 1990 in Osho Times
- Ch 7: sometime in 1969, Pahalgam, title: Osho confronts the followers of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
NB Osho was invited to address them, as Maharishi was holding a camp in Pahalgam at that time too. For now assuming that was during the same camp as ch 2 above, so Sep or early Oct. Assuming the literal truth of the statement that this addressing of Maharishi's followers was Osho's first speaking in public in English, then ch 2 above is possibly not English but a translation.
- Ch 8: Sep 11, 1980, Pune, title: Bhuribai
NB Original discourse was part of Jyun Tha Tyun Tharaya, an otherwise not-yet translated Hindi series. Perhaps it qualified as an "early talk" since it concerned Bhuribai, a silent female mystic who had her own entourage and brought them to Osho's first camp at Ranakpur
- Ch 9: no time or place, title: Women Mystics
NB the CD-ROM gives the date for this chapter as Jun 30, 1969, but this is bogus, since the chapter is a compilation, with its components cited as follows: The section on Meera is translated from Maine Ram Ratan Dhan Payo (Oct 1977); on Sahajo, translated from Bin Ghan Parat Phuhar (Oct 1975); and on Daya, Jagat Taraiya Bhor Ki (Mar 1977), that book now fully translated as The Last Morning Star. So as with ch 8, these are not "true" early talks.
- Ch 10: no time or place, title: Man & God -- The Spiritual Dimension of Life
NB CD-ROM notes that this discourse was Part 3, ch 1 of The Mind of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh
- Ch 11: no time or place, title: Man & Man
NB CD-ROM notes that this discourse was Part 3, ch 2 of The Mind of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh
-- updated doofus-9 (talk) 18:15, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
