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:4. परम जीवन का सूत्र
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:6. संन्यास की दिशा
:6. संन्यास की दिशा  
 
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About titles: It is said at the page for the translation, ''[[Nine Sutras]]'', that the translation was called ''Sun of Consciousness'' in the CD-ROM, but was never published under that title. There is an interesting correlation in the Hindi titles, which turned up in [[Shailendra - Osho's Hindi Books (source document)]]. Shailendra says that ''Yog: Naye Aayam'' was also called ''Chetna Ka Surya'', which literally means Sun of Consciousness.
 
It is not known how much currency this alt-title ever had, and whether it was once published under that name. At this point, we are in fwiw-land. Continuing in that vein, we can also consider the individual discourse titles. Rough translations of the Hindi chapters above are as follows:
:1. World-One Family
:2. Home-Temple
:3. Love Center
:4. The Thread (Sutra) of the Ultimate Life
:5. Simple Truth
:6. The direction of Sannyas
 
Only three of the chapters of ''Sun of Consciousness'' in the CD-ROM have any titles but they correspond closely to three of these but in a different sequence. They are:
:2. The Universe - A Family
:3. Home-Temple
:6. The Sutra of Ultimate Life
 
The notion of a different sequence is also explored in the article page for ''[[Nine Sutras]]'', where it reports on the [http://oshofriendsinternational.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=142&Itemid=230 Osho Friends International site's] exploration of altered text for this book and says, "On the CD, the order of the chapters is chronological. In the 2005 edition, the order of the chapters is different: 5-1-2-3-6-4. In the 2006 edition the order is again chronological. The texts of the 2005 and 2006 editions are the same though."
 
Looking at OFI's exploration today i found the order to be 2-3-4-6-1-5. We may be using different terms of reference so for now we can just note that another interesting fact about all this is that the 2003 Rebel edition of ''Yog: Naye Aayam'' also seems to use this order. At least according to the chapter titles above, the order is 2-3-x-6-y-z (relative to the chrono order of the CD-ROM). Additionally, we have some English chapter titles from OFI. Two of the three missing titles -- the 3rd and 5th -- in the CD-ROM are completely new and not relevant to this discussion but ''Nine Sutra's'' 6th chapter is called The New Sannyasin -- possibly with a new OIF spin on that -- which corresponds well with ch 6 in the 2003 ''YNA''. Thus, this change of order clearly started earlier and the 2005 edition likely derives from it or some unknown predecessor. Two English editions in two years (2005 and 2006) suggests the 2005 may have been understood as mistaken. -- doofus-9 20:25, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

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About the info for the 2003 Rebel edition, this has been retrieved from an orphan page to be deleted. Only the cover image, the date 2003 and the publisher's name Rebel were found there, the rest is presumed. -- Sarlo (talk) 21:50, 11 April 2014 (PDT)


प्रवचन (TOC):
1. जगत-एक परिवार
2. घर-मंदिर
3. प्रेम का केंद्र
4. परम जीवन का सूत्र
5. सरल सत्य
6. संन्यास की दिशा

About titles: It is said at the page for the translation, Nine Sutras, that the translation was called Sun of Consciousness in the CD-ROM, but was never published under that title. There is an interesting correlation in the Hindi titles, which turned up in Shailendra - Osho's Hindi Books (source document). Shailendra says that Yog: Naye Aayam was also called Chetna Ka Surya, which literally means Sun of Consciousness.

It is not known how much currency this alt-title ever had, and whether it was once published under that name. At this point, we are in fwiw-land. Continuing in that vein, we can also consider the individual discourse titles. Rough translations of the Hindi chapters above are as follows:

1. World-One Family
2. Home-Temple
3. Love Center
4. The Thread (Sutra) of the Ultimate Life
5. Simple Truth
6. The direction of Sannyas

Only three of the chapters of Sun of Consciousness in the CD-ROM have any titles but they correspond closely to three of these but in a different sequence. They are:

2. The Universe - A Family
3. Home-Temple
6. The Sutra of Ultimate Life

The notion of a different sequence is also explored in the article page for Nine Sutras, where it reports on the Osho Friends International site's exploration of altered text for this book and says, "On the CD, the order of the chapters is chronological. In the 2005 edition, the order of the chapters is different: 5-1-2-3-6-4. In the 2006 edition the order is again chronological. The texts of the 2005 and 2006 editions are the same though."

Looking at OFI's exploration today i found the order to be 2-3-4-6-1-5. We may be using different terms of reference so for now we can just note that another interesting fact about all this is that the 2003 Rebel edition of Yog: Naye Aayam also seems to use this order. At least according to the chapter titles above, the order is 2-3-x-6-y-z (relative to the chrono order of the CD-ROM). Additionally, we have some English chapter titles from OFI. Two of the three missing titles -- the 3rd and 5th -- in the CD-ROM are completely new and not relevant to this discussion but Nine Sutra's 6th chapter is called The New Sannyasin -- possibly with a new OIF spin on that -- which corresponds well with ch 6 in the 2003 YNA. Thus, this change of order clearly started earlier and the 2005 edition likely derives from it or some unknown predecessor. Two English editions in two years (2005 and 2006) suggests the 2005 may have been understood as mistaken. -- doofus-9 20:25, 14 February 2017 (UTC)