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===Current understanding=== | ===Current understanding=== | ||
The issues around this book are addressed in the table below. This has been possible thanks to the research of [[Sw Antar Rahi]], who has compared the available texts and audio. | The issues around this book are addressed in the table below. This has been possible thanks to the research of [[Sw Antar Rahi]], who has compared the available texts and audio. | ||
Main findings: | Main findings: | ||
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! event !! TOC of Shailendra's PDF !! PDF Osho World !! audio Osho.com !! audio OshoWorld (free) | ! event !! TOC of Shailendra's PDF !! PDF Osho World !! audio Osho.com !! audio OshoWorld (free) | ||
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| [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 01]] || 1. जीवन एक पूजा || 1. जीवन एक पूजा '''(*1)''' || 1. जीवन एक पूजा 68min || #1. 68min '''(*2)''' | | [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 01]] || 1. जीवन एक पूजा || 1. जीवन एक पूजा '''(*1)''' || 1. जीवन एक पूजा 68min<br>incomplete || #1. 68min '''(*2)'''<br>incomplete | ||
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| [[Yuvak Aur Yaun ~ 07]] || | | [[Yuvak Aur Yaun ~ 07]] || | ||
* ''Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Or'' 12. युवा चित्त का जन्म | * ''Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Or'' 12. युवा चित्त का जन्म | ||
* ''Yuvak Aur Yaun'' 7. युवा चित्त का जन्म | * ''Yuvak Aur Yaun'' 7. युवा चित्त का जन्म | ||
|| || ''Yuvak Aur Yaun'' 6. युवा चित्त का जन्म 70min || | || || ''Yuvak Aur Yaun'' 6. युवा चित्त का जन्म 70min || #2. 71min '''(*3)''' | ||
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| [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 02]] || 2. जीवन की कला || 2. जीवन की कला || 2. जीवन की कला 64min || #3. 63min | | [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 02]] || 2. जीवन की कला || 2. जीवन की कला || 2. जीवन की कला 64min || #3. 63min | ||
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| [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 03]] || 3. अकेले होने का साहस || || 3. | | [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 03]] || 3. अकेले होने का साहस<br>incomplete || || 3. Talk 3 49min '''(*4)'''<br>incomplete || #4. 50min<br>incomplete | ||
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| [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 04]] || 4. सामूहिक जीवन || || | | [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 04]] || 4. सामूहिक जीवन<br>beginning and end incomplete || || 3. Talk 4 12min '''(*4)'''<br>beginning and end incomplete || #5. 11min<br>beginning and end incomplete | ||
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| [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 05]] || 5. अंतर की खोज || 5. अंतर की खोज || | | [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 05]] || 5. अंतर की खोज || 5. अंतर की खोज || 4. अंतर की खोज 35min || #6. 35min | ||
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| [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 06]] || 6. विचार और अंतर-बोध || 6. विचार और अंतर-बोध || | | [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 06]] || 6. विचार और अंतर-बोध<br>beginning incomplete || 6. विचार और अंतर-बोध || 5. विचार और अंतर-बोध 70min<br>"Incomplete" (beginning incomplete and end incomplete) || #7. 69min<br>only beginning incomplete (some untranscribed text in the end) | ||
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| [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 07]] || 7. नानक दुखिया सब संसार || 7. नानक दुखिया सब संसार || | | [[Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 07]] || 7. नानक दुखिया सब संसार || 7. नानक दुखिया सब संसार || 6. "Audio Not Available" || | ||
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| || | | || ''Sambodhi Ke Kshan'' 5. क्षण-क्षण जीना || || ''Sambodhi Ke Kshan'' 4. क्षण-क्षण जीना 75 min '''(*5)'''<br>end can be incomplete || #8. 75min<br>end can be incomplete | ||
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: (*2) = The book-text is longer than the audio, audio has about 82% of the text. Two possibilities: 1) the audio is incomplete, or 2) the audio is complete, but in the text, text has been added from another discourse - we have not been able to find that text though. | : (*2) = The book-text is longer than the audio, audio has about 82% of the text. Two possibilities: 1) the audio is incomplete, or 2) the audio is complete, but in the text, text has been added from another discourse - we have not been able to find that text though. | ||
: (*3) = See [[Talk:Yuvak Aur Yaun (युवक और यौन)|Talk:Yuvak Aur Yaun]] and [[Talk:Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Or (संभोग से समाधि की ओर)|Talk:Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Or]]. | : (*3) = See [[Talk:Yuvak Aur Yaun (युवक और यौन)|Talk:Yuvak Aur Yaun]] and [[Talk:Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Or (संभोग से समाधि की ओर)|Talk:Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Or]]. | ||
: (*4) = These two audios are selling as one on osho.com. No title. | |||
: (*5) = In Khajana collection it is ''Sambodhi Ke Kshan'' #5. | |||
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'Could not find relation of this series with ''[[Jeevan Rahasya (जीवन रहस्य)]]'' mentioned in [[Shifting content in Hindi books (source document)]]. It needs to check more sources for research of this relation.--DhyanAntar 04:12, 15 August 2020 (UTC) | 'Could not find relation of this series with ''[[Jeevan Rahasya (जीवन रहस्य)]]'' mentioned in [[Shifting content in Hindi books (source document)]]. It needs to check more sources for research of this relation.--DhyanAntar 04:12, 15 August 2020 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 06:30, 28 September 2020
Current understanding
The issues around this book are addressed in the table below. This has been possible thanks to the research of Sw Antar Rahi, who has compared the available texts and audio.
Main findings:
- This series has 7 events, not 8.
- Two audios from OW are not in fact from this original series.
| event | TOC of Shailendra's PDF | PDF Osho World | audio Osho.com | audio OshoWorld (free) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 01 | 1. जीवन एक पूजा | 1. जीवन एक पूजा (*1) | 1. जीवन एक पूजा 68min incomplete |
#1. 68min (*2) incomplete |
| Yuvak Aur Yaun ~ 07 |
|
Yuvak Aur Yaun 6. युवा चित्त का जन्म 70min | #2. 71min (*3) | |
| Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 02 | 2. जीवन की कला | 2. जीवन की कला | 2. जीवन की कला 64min | #3. 63min |
| Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 03 | 3. अकेले होने का साहस incomplete |
3. Talk 3 49min (*4) incomplete |
#4. 50min incomplete | |
| Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 04 | 4. सामूहिक जीवन beginning and end incomplete |
3. Talk 4 12min (*4) beginning and end incomplete |
#5. 11min beginning and end incomplete | |
| Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 05 | 5. अंतर की खोज | 5. अंतर की खोज | 4. अंतर की खोज 35min | #6. 35min |
| Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 06 | 6. विचार और अंतर-बोध beginning incomplete |
6. विचार और अंतर-बोध | 5. विचार और अंतर-बोध 70min "Incomplete" (beginning incomplete and end incomplete) |
#7. 69min only beginning incomplete (some untranscribed text in the end) |
| Nanak Dukhiya Sab Sansar ~ 07 | 7. नानक दुखिया सब संसार | 7. नानक दुखिया सब संसार | 6. "Audio Not Available" | |
| Sambodhi Ke Kshan 5. क्षण-क्षण जीना | Sambodhi Ke Kshan 4. क्षण-क्षण जीना 75 min (*5) end can be incomplete |
#8. 75min end can be incomplete |
- notes
- (*1) = according to our present knowledge
- (*2) = The book-text is longer than the audio, audio has about 82% of the text. Two possibilities: 1) the audio is incomplete, or 2) the audio is complete, but in the text, text has been added from another discourse - we have not been able to find that text though.
- (*3) = See Talk:Yuvak Aur Yaun and Talk:Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Or.
- (*4) = These two audios are selling as one on osho.com. No title.
- (*5) = In Khajana collection it is Sambodhi Ke Kshan #5.
'Could not find relation of this series with Jeevan Rahasya (जीवन रहस्य) mentioned in Shifting content in Hindi books (source document). It needs to check more sources for research of this relation.--DhyanAntar 04:12, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
