Beyond Enlightenment ~ 30

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event type discourse
date & time 2 Nov 1986 pm
location Sumila, Juhu, Bombay
language English
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shorttitle ENLIGH30
Reader of the questions: Ma Prem Maneesha.
Question 1
Beloved Osho, I have heard you speak for the past month on "beyond enlightenment" -- and I don't understand it.
I have heard you speak for the past twelve years on enlightenment -- and I don't understand it.
All I know is the moment when I sit before you: You feel like blood to my body; your voice, more familiar than my own heartbeat.
Osho, have I let you down?
Question 2
Beloved Osho, reading a scientific report about brain manipulation, questions arose in me.
For instance, if every feeling -- like happiness, sadness, sexuality, aggression, and so on -- can be stimulated by electrodes, or indirectly by chemistry, can be manipulated from the outside, then these feelings are not my own; they are just puppets in someone's hands. They are either manipulated from the outside or from the inside as automatic reactions to situations -- they are not me. This is about feelings.
Maybe some day thoughts can be manipulated equally easily. Then what is really mine? Then what is left? Then who am I?
Questioning and thinking in these directions, I came to recognize that I often think about myself, about life, about truth in these ways. And then the question arose: Is this way of questioning and thinking the way the mind tries to know something? Is it able to reach any truth at all? If not, is this thinking or questioning just a futile effort, just a waste of time? Or is it not the mind, not the intellect, but a deeper intelligence, a deeper instrument that is able to come to some truth?
Would you please comment?
Question 3
Beloved Osho, I love being here. I wanted and felt to be with you even if it were just for two days.
At your birthday in 1981 we met for the first time. The reason was that I had just read a book about Gurdjieff and the phenomenon of Baraka. This gave me such a hit that I made it to come to the Ranch.
These days I am working with managers and teaching them meditation techniques. I'm also preparing a worldwide meditation project. Again I feel I need 'baraka'!
Please can you say something about Baraka?
Question 4
Beloved Osho, Rajneeshpuram was a rare experiment in the history of human consciousness where for the first time seekers of truth from the whole world gathered around a master. It was an international commune for the most intense and the fastest growth of human consciousness.
The Rajneeshpuram commune could not survive because of orthodox religions and international politics.
Is there any hope of such a rare experiment happening again around you? Or is there any alternative experiment possible on an individual scale in the present situation? Or is it destined that such a rare opportunity for human consciousness to flower to its optimum should be missed?
Please comment.
Question 5
Edited excerpt: 11min 46sec, question 5 **
Beloved Osho, do those cells needed for a lively and growing intelligence have only a 'limited' life span, so that there is a point beyond which one either becomes senile or simply stagnates?
Or, given the necessary stimulus, is it possible for intelligence to continue to grow right up to the moment of one's death?


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