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सीधी अनुभूति है; अंगार है, राख नहीं। राख को तो तुम सम्हाल कर रख सकते हो। अंगार को सम्हालना हो तो श्रद्धा चाहिए, तो ही पी सकोगे यह आग। कबीर आग हैं। और एक घंुट भी पी लो तो तुम्हारे भीतर भी अग्नि भभक उठे- - सोई अग्नि जन्मों-जन्मों की। तुम भी दीये बनो। तुम्हारे भीतर भी सुरज ऊगे। और ऐसा हो, तो ही समझना कि कबीर को समझा। ऐसा न हो, तो समझना कि कबीर के शब्द पकड़े, शब्दों की व्याख्या की, शब्दों के अर्थ जाने; पर वह सब ऊपर-ऊपर का काम है। जैसे कोई जमीन को इंच दो इंच खोदे और सोचे कि कुआं हो गया। गहरा खोदना होगा। कंकड़-पत्थर आएंगे। कूड़ा-कचरा आएगा। मिट्टी हटानी होगी। धीरे-धीरे जलस्त्रोत के निकट पहुंचोगे। -- ओशो

notes: This book has a somewhat complicated history, having got merged with another of Osho's books, Akath Kahani Prem Ki (अकथ कहानी प्रेम की), on Farid. A new title was created to designate that merger, Na Kano Suna Na Aankhon Dekha (न कानों सुना न आंखों देखा) (ch.11-20 there), but it may never have been published as such, while Honi and Akath have, and so retain a certain ontological existence. See discussion for more on this and a transliteration matter.

Diamond Pocket Books in 2003 published it as two books: first five chapters under the current title, the last - as Lali Mere Lal Ki (लाली मेरे लाल की).

time period of Osho's original talks/writings: Jan 11, 1980 to Jan 20, 1980 : timeline

number of discourses/chapters: 10 (all editions except 2003 and 2008 editions); 5 (2003 and 2008 ed.); (see table of contents)

editions

	Honi Hoye So Hoye (होनी होय सो होय) Year of publication : Mar 1980 Publisher : Rajneesh Foundation ISBN : none Number of pages : 297 Hardcover / Paperback / Ebook : H Edition notes : Title page 1 Title page 2 Publication info Contents
	Honi Hoye So Hoye (होनी होय सो होय) कबीर-वाणी (Kabir-Vani) Year of publication : 2003 Publisher : Diamond Books ISBN 81-7182-829-9 (click ISBN to buy online) Number of pages : 160 Hardcover / Paperback / Ebook : P Edition notes : Preface by Sw Chaitanya Keerti
	Honi Hoye So Hoye (होनी होय सो होय) कबीर-वाणी (Kabir-Vani) Year of publication : 2008 Publisher : Diamond Books ISBN 9788171828296 (click ISBN to buy online) Number of pages : 160 Hardcover / Paperback / Ebook : P Edition notes : Preface by Sw Chaitanya Keerti
	Honi Hoye So Hoye (होनी होय सो होय) Year of publication : 2012 Publisher : Diamond Pocket Books Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi ISBN 978-93-5083-197-7 (click ISBN to buy online) Number of pages : 264 Hardcover / Paperback / Ebook : P Edition notes : Publication info Contents
	Honi Hoye So Hoye (होनी होय सो होय) Year of publication : 2018 Publisher : Osho Media International ISBN 978-0-88050-872-8 (click ISBN to buy online) Number of pages : 512 Hardcover / Paperback / Ebook : E Edition notes :

editions 1980.03, 2012** chapter titles		discourses
editions 1980.03, 2012** chapter titles		event	location	duration	media
1	मंगन से क्या मांगिये**	11 Jan 1980 am	Buddha Hall, Pune	1h 35min	audio
2	छाया मत छूना मन	12 Jan 1980 am	Buddha Hall, Pune	1h 37min	audio
3	मैं अपने साहब संग चली	13 Jan 1980 am	Buddha Hall, Pune	1h 23min	audio
4	मधुर मधुर मेरे दीपक जल	14 Jan 1980 am	Buddha Hall, Pune	1h 24min	audio
5	पीवत रामरस लगी खुमारी	15 Jan 1980 am	Buddha Hall, Pune	1h 32min	audio
6	सत्संग	16 Jan 1980 am	Buddha Hall, Pune	1h 39min	audio
7	पी ले प्याला हो मतवाला	17 Jan 1980 am	Buddha Hall, Pune	1h 47min	audio
8	प्रज्ञा संन्यास है	18 Jan 1980 am	Buddha Hall, Pune	1h 48min	audio
9	सखि, वह घर सब से न्यारा	19 Jan 1980 am	Buddha Hall, Pune	1h 44min	audio
10	नेति-नेति	20 Jan 1980 am	Buddha Hall, Pune	1h 37min	audio

edition 2003 chapter titles		discourses
edition 2003 chapter titles		event	location	duration	media
1	मंगन से क्या माँगिए	11 Jan 1980 am	Buddha Hall, Pune	1h 35min	audio
2	छाया मत छूना मन	12 Jan 1980 am	Buddha Hall, Pune	1h 37min	audio
3	मैं अपने साहब संग चली	13 Jan 1980 am	Buddha Hall, Pune	1h 23min	audio
4	मधुर-मधुर मेरे दीपक जल	14 Jan 1980 am	Buddha Hall, Pune	1h 24min	audio
5	पीवत रामरस लगी खुमारी	15 Jan 1980 am	Buddha Hall, Pune	1h 32min	audio

** Differences in titles of 2012ed.:

ch.1 = मंगन से क्या मांगिए

ch.9 = सखि, वह घर सबसे न्यारा

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 notes = This book has a somewhat complicated history, having got merged with another of Osho's books, ''[[Akath Kahani Prem Ki (अकथ कहानी प्रेम की)]]'', on Farid. A new title was created to designate that merger, ''[[Na Kano Suna Na Aankhon Dekha (न कानों सुना न आंखों देखा)]]'' (ch.11-20 there), but it may never have been published as such, while ''Honi'' and ''Akath'' have, and so retain a certain ontological existence. See [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|discussion]] for more on this and a transliteration matter.
-:And one sometimes comes across the title ''Honi Hoye So Hoye (Kabir Vani)'', apparently as a sort of subtitling / explaining effort, literally voice or songs of Kabir. Most often, this may not be the case but rather another book based on this one, a splitting off of first five chapters from this one into a smaller book. See [[Honi Hoye So Hoye (Kabir-Vani) (होनी होय सो होय (कबीर-वाणी))|that book]] and its talk section for more on that. That's text titles. When it comes to titles and subtitles on the actual book cover, it gets much more convoluted. See [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|discussion]] for details.
+:Diamond Pocket Books in 2003 published it as two books: first five chapters under the current title, the last - as ''[[Lali Mere Lal Ki (लाली मेरे लाल की)]]''.
-:Chapters 6-10 also published as ''[[Lali Mere Lal Ki (लाली मेरे लाल की)]]''.
 |
 period = Jan 11, 1980 to Jan 20, 1980|year=1980|
-nofd = 10 &emsp; ([[#table of contents|see table of contents]]) |
+nofd = 10 (all editions except 2003 and 2008 editions)
+:5 (2003 and 2008 ed.)
+:([[#table of contents|see table of contents]]) |
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+{{bookedition|HHSH-Vani.jpg|कबीर-वाणी (Kabir-Vani)|2003|Diamond Books|1|81-7182-829-9|160|P|Preface by [[Sw Chaitanya Keerti]] }}
+{{bookedition|HHSH-Vani.jpg|कबीर-वाणी (Kabir-Vani)|2008|Diamond Books|1|9788171828296|160|P|Preface by [[Sw Chaitanya Keerti]] }}
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 {{TOCLine | 10 | नेति-नेति | [[Honi Hoye So Hoye ~ 10 | 20 Jan 1980 am]] | Buddha Hall, [[wikipedia:Pune|Pune]] | 1h 37min | audio }}
+|}
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+{{TOCTable | edition 2003 | discourses }}
+{{TOCLine | 1 | मंगन से क्या माँगिए | [[Honi Hoye So Hoye ~ 01 | 11 Jan 1980 am]] | Buddha Hall, [[wikipedia:Pune|Pune]] | 1h 35min | audio }}
+{{TOCLine | 2 | छाया मत छूना मन | [[Honi Hoye So Hoye ~ 02 | 12 Jan 1980 am]] | Buddha Hall, [[wikipedia:Pune|Pune]] | 1h 37min | audio }}
+{{TOCLine | 3 | मैं अपने साहब संग चली | [[Honi Hoye So Hoye ~ 03 | 13 Jan 1980 am]] | Buddha Hall, [[wikipedia:Pune|Pune]] | 1h 23min | audio }}
+{{TOCLine | 4 | मधुर-मधुर मेरे दीपक जल | [[Honi Hoye So Hoye ~ 04 | 14 Jan 1980 am]] | Buddha Hall, [[wikipedia:Pune|Pune]] | 1h 24min | audio }}
+{{TOCLine | 5 | पीवत रामरस लगी खुमारी | [[Honi Hoye So Hoye ~ 05 | 15 Jan 1980 am]] | Buddha Hall, [[wikipedia:Pune|Pune]] | 1h 32min | audio }}
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