Hyakujo The Everest of Zen ~ 03
|event type||discourse & meditation|
|date & time||28 Sep 1988 pm|
|location||Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune|
|audio||Available, duration 2h 29min. Quality: good.|
Osho leading meditation from 2:08:40.
Live music after the discourse.
|video||Available, duration 2h 33min. Quality: good.|
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- Reader of the sutra: Ma Prem Maneesha. Questions are being read by Osho himself.
After discourse Osho leads No-Mind Meditation.
- The sutra
- The question was asked of Hyakujo: "There is a sutra which says that not to perceive anything in terms of being or non-being is true deliverance. What does that mean?" Hyakujo responded:
- "When we attain to purity of mind, that is something which can be said to exist. When this happens, our remaining free from any thought of achievement is called not perceiving anything as existent. Reaching the state in which no thoughts arise or persist, yet without being conscious of their absence, is called not perceiving anything as non-existent.
- "The Surangama sutra says, Perceptions employed as a base for building up possible concepts are the origin of all ignorance. Perception that there is nothing to perceive -- that is nirvana, also known as deliverance."
- A question was asked, "What is the meaning of the phrase 'nothing to perceive'?"
- Hyakujo replied: "Being able to behold men, women and all the various sorts of appearances while remaining as free from love or hate as if they were actually not seen at all -- that is what is meant by 'nothing to perceive.'"
- Then he was asked: "That which occurs when we are confronted by all sorts of shapes and forms is called perception. Can we speak of perception taking place when nothing confronts us?"
- "Yes," replied Hyakujo.
- "When something confronts us, it follows that we perceive it," continued the question, "but how can there be perception when we are confronted by nothing at all?"
- Hyakujo answered by saying: "We are not talking of that perception which is independent of there being an object or not. How can that be?"
- "The nature of perception being eternal, we go on perceiving whether objects are present or not. Thereby we come to understand that, whereas objects naturally appear and disappear, the nature of perception does neither of those things. It is the same with all your other senses too," concluded Hyakujo.
- Question 1
- Beloved Osho, although Basho's haikus are exquisite, they mostly tend to be a bit melancholy.
- I have always associated enlightenment with levity, if not ecstasy -- although is seems that Krishnamurti didn't extract much enjoyment from his enlightenment.
- Was Basho enlightened?
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