Ma Tzu The Empty Mirror ~ 01

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event type discourse & meditation
date & time 16 Sep 1988 pm
location Gautam the Buddha Auditorium, Pune
language English
audio Available, duration 1h 39min. Quality: not so good.
Osho leading meditation from 1:21:21.
Live music after the discourse.
online audio
video Available, duration 1h 43min. Quality: good, but a constant audio-noise.
online video
see also
online text find the PDF of this discourse
shorttitle MATZU01
Reader of the sutra: Ma Prem Maneesha. Questions are being read by Osho himself.
After discourse Osho leads No-Mind Meditation.
The sutra
When Nangaku first saw Ma Tzu, he recognized him by intuition as a vessel of the dharma.
He visited Ma Tzu in his cell where he was meditating, and asked him: "In practicing sitting meditation, what does your reverence aspire to attain?"
"To attain buddhahood" was Ma Tzu's reply.
Nangaku then took up a piece of brick and began to grind it against a rock in front of Ma Tzu's cell. Ma Tzu asked, "What are you grinding it for?"
"I want to grind it into a mirror," responded Nangaku.
Amused, Ma Tzu said, "How can you hope to grind a piece of brick into a mirror?"
Nangaku retorted, "Since a piece of brick cannot be ground into a mirror, how then can you sit yourself into a buddha?"
"What must I do then?" Ma Tzu asked.
Nangaku replied, "Take the case of an ox-cart: If the cart does not move, do you whip the cart or do you whip the ox?"
Ma Tzu remained silent.
"In learning sitting meditation," resumed Nangaku, "do you aspire to imitate the sitting Buddha or do you aspire to learn the sitting Zen? If the former, the Buddha has no fixed postures. If the latter, Zen does not consist in sitting or lying down.
The dharma goes on forever and never abides in anything. You must not, therefore, be attached to, nor abandon, any particular phase of it. To sit yourself into Buddha is to kill the Buddha. To be attached to the sitting posture is to fail to comprehend the essential principle."

Question 1
Our Beloved Master, are we all, the ten thousand buddhas, potential vessels of the dharma?


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