Talk:Es Dhammo Sanantano, Bhag 3 (एस धम्मो सनंतनो, भाग 3) (6 volume set)

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The anomaly referred to in the EDS Vol 3 page consists of this: Dates were given as Mar 21 to Apr 10, 1976, with 21 as the number of discourses. This is internally consistent but the whole set of six volumes runs afoul of the total number of discourses in the series, 122. Since there are 122 audio discourses for EDS at a number of Indian Osho audio sites, this number must be treated as sacred, inviolable. And if this volume were allowed to keep its 21, the total would be 124.

So why single out this volume for correction? The answer is that there are two sources pointing at Vol 3. One is "Doc X", which says there were only 19 discourses and that the dates were Mar 23 to Apr 10. Not that Doc X is infallible, but this too is internally consistent and has the additional attraction of being semi-confirmed by another source: Osho World Galleria has a page for each of the books in the new twelve-vol set with mini-descriptions of each. For the new Part 6 (the second half of this Vol 3) there are said to be nine discourses/chapters, an unusual number, and the only such in all twelve vols, all others being ten or eleven chapters. Mysteriously, for Part 5, the info regarding number of chapters is corrupted, so all this cannot be absolutely confirmed at this point but there is felt to be enough info pointing at ten discourses to run with.

A deeper look at this "corrupted" info for Part 5 suggests what is most likely a Devanagari typo: In their formulaic description of each Part, there is a place where they fill in the number of discourses. For Part 6, it's नौ (nine) and for Part 5 it's इस. Only problem is this is not a number, it just means "this". Not exactly meaningless but fairly pointless. The significant thing seen now is its resemblance to दस, das, or ten. If that's not a close enough resemblance, we can also consider a near-homonym, डस, which may or may not be a word, but can be thought of as being intermediate between इस and दस, in that डस sounds almost like दस and looks almost like इस. A Hindi brain-fart is sufficient to explain this transference, so this 19 discourses starting on the 23rd looks better all the time.

There are also three nights off from the Darshan Diary of the time, Be Realistic: Plan for a Miracle. One of those nights could be accounted for by an Enlightenment Day celebration, but that run of time off is not continuous, it is interrupted by the last Bhakti Sutra discourse. That taken with the two subsequent missing days of discourses are a bit of a puzzle but the synchronicity of time off does add to the body of (circumstantial) evidence for only 19 discourses for Vol 3. -- updated doofus-9 (talk) 03:30, 14 February 2015 (UTC)


With first pages of chapters we have dates (images on main page). Above suggestion is right.--DhyanAntar 07:43, 12 December 2020 (UTC)