Talk:Jeevan Ras Ganga (जीवन रस गंगा)

Only source for info on this book is osho.com, which has only an audio offering. They provide titles for each mp3 / chapter. -- doofus-9 18:16, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

TOC:

1. परंपरा के पत्थर

2. परंपराओं से मुक्ति

3. विस्मय का भाव

4. रहस्य का बोध

5. दुखवाद के प्रति विद्रोह

6. व्यवहार का पाखंड

7. अहंकार—मृत्यु का सूत्र

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New Dates and Places info from Jagdish (image) has some interesting material which makes Ras Ganga a component of Mati Kahai Kumhar Su (माटी कहै कुम्हार सूं). It is internally consistent, fills in some sources for Mati, suggests a reason for previous inconsistencies in Mati's sources and the titles match up well. What's not to like?

Well, there is a small conflict with dates: the two talks on Apr 9 collide with a talk in the Timeline in mid-day in Lonavala, prohibitively far away. This dilemma can fortunately be resolved. That talk supposedly in Lonavala was a short informal talk with workers -- discourse #9 of Anant Ki Pukar (अनंत की पुकार) -- and there is an alternative location for it in Mumbai which had been rejected because other sources pointed to Lonavala. So let's bring it back to Mumbai and say, "Bob's your uncle!"

JRG 1 -- MKKS 6 7/4/1968 pm Cross Maidan, Bombay

JRG 2 -- MKKS 7 8/4/1968 am Kawasji Jahangir Hall, Bombay

JRG 3 -- MKKS 8 8/4/1968 pm Cross Maidan, Bombay

JRG 4 -- MKKS 9 9/4/1968 am Kawasji Jahangir Hall, Bombay

JRG 5 -- MKKS 10 9/4/1968 pm Cross Maidan, Bombay

JRG 6 -- MKKS 11 10/4/1968 am Kawasji Jahangir Hall**, Bombay

JRG 7 -- MKKS 12 10/4/1968 pm Cross Maidan, Bombay

Kawasji Jahangir Hall is rendered by G**gle as Cowasji Jehangir Hall, named for a famous rich guy who put his name on it in days of different transliteration standards.

One last item: Osho World's blurb about Mati suggests its sources are two different meditation camps, which would make Ras Ganga one of them. At this point, it looks a stretch, so will leave that out. -- doofus-9 01:36, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

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Jagdish has supplied two more versions of Mati's relationship with Ras Ganga. While they don't agree in every detail, the connection seems sound enough. And whether Ras Ganga is precisely a camp can be more possible if a more flexible definition of camp is adopted. -- doofus-9 05:49, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

media status

Osho.com has 7 MP3s, OW has none under this title, but does have Mati Kahe Kumhar Su #06 -- 12. Judging by their duration they could well match. Compare Talk:Mati Kahai Kumhar Su (माटी कहै कुम्हार सूं).

The audio needs to be checked against the book's texts: what is what? --Sugit (talk) 12:18, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

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