Talk:Jyun Machhli Bin Neer (ज्यूं मछली बिन नीर)

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There is not a lot of info out there on this book. For the widest variety of hits, best to search for just "Bin Neer" (in quotes) plus Osho, as there is a fair bit of inconsistency in rendering the first two words.

Even for the TOC (audio titles) there is some difficulty, since the only two sources -- the usual sources -- don't exactly agree, and neither's picture is exactly clear. So okay, here they are. Compare and enjoy!

      osho.com
1: अपने-अपने कारागृह 108
2: जगत सत्य ब्रह्म सत्य 110
3: अंतर्यात्रा पर निकलो 106
4: ध्यान पर ही ध्यान दो 94
5: सत्य की कसौटी 103
6: जीवन जीने का नाम है 111
7: श्रद्धा और सत्य का मिथुन 122
8: प्रतिरोध न करें 117
9:       113
10: Jyun Machhli Bin Neer 101
10: ध्यान विधि है मूर्च्छा को तोड़ने की 101  
       Osho World प्रवचन:
1. अपने-अपने कारागृह
2. जगत सत्य ब्रह्म सत्य
3. अंतर्यात्रा पर निकलो
4. ध्यान पर ही ध्यान दो
5. सत्य की कसौटी
6. जीवन जीने का नाम है
7. श्रद्धा और सत्य का मिथुन
8. प्रतिरोध न करें
9. संन्यास: ध्यान की कसम
10. ध्यान विधि है मूच्र्छा को तोड़ने की  
11. ज्यूं मछली बिन नीर

Both of the above are presented as they were found, with all their glitches. The major drawback of OW is that there can only be ten discourses. The eleventh, titled in fact with the series' title, may be the most suspect, except that that title appears also in o.com's list, albeit in Roman letters, a bit out of place, and not in the same order. About o.com's list, it will be tiresome and unnecessary to list all the anomalies. Just one little possible one i will mention. When copying from them i usually strip away the timing information, those numbers at the end representing minutes. Here i have left them, as the sameness of the last two may indicate something useful. -- Sarlo (talk) 09:29, 5 August 2014 (PDT)

July 2017 update:

Now finally a real hard-copy TOC has shown up (image above right, click to enlarge). I was perhaps overly harsh earlier, since the first eight titles agree completely in all sources. For the 9th, OW and hard-copy (HC) agree, with o.com just missing.

About the 10th/11th: The "title track" may have been some legitimate stray audio that didn't make it into the book and was somehow exactly the same length as the other last chapter, whatever order they might be in, but that would be an extreme long shot. Leaving that aside, the 10th titles also all agree except for one word, where OW has मूच्र्छा for मूर्च्छा. The latter makes sense and agrees with HC, so that shall be deemed the winner in this little dispute.

So there we have it! The 2014 pub date is presumed on the basis of the OIF copyright claim. -- doofus-9 17:57, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

The word ब्रह्म in ch.-title 2 on the image with TOC shown incorrect, as Shailendra mentioned.--DhyanAntar 15:53, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Oshoworld free audios has 10 audios.--DhyanAntar 08:06, 5 November 2020 (UTC)


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