Talk:Kranti Sutra (क्रांति सूत्र) (compilation)
It was written, when this book was considered one with Kranti Sutra (क्रांति सूत्र), that "This book apparently has nothing to do with Jeevan Kranti Ke Sutra (जीवन क्रांति के सूत्र) nor with Kranti Sutra: Sakshi Bhav (क्रांति सूत्रः साक्षी भाव)". For KS 2, it has to be added that it apparently has nothing to do with KS 1. And we can now also say that the "apparently" in the old observation has served well, since there now does seem to be a connection with JKKS which was not previously seen, and that is:
The idea of four audio discourses for Kranti Sutra comes from osho.com, which even has titles for them:
- 1: सिद्धांत, शास्त्र और वाद से मुक्ति
- 2: भीड़ से, समाज से--दूसरों से मुक्ति
- 3: दमन से मुक्ति
- 4: न भोग, न दमन--वरन जागरण
These titles have been spotted in another context, none other than the Diamond edition of JKKS. With this crossover, we have a serious tear in the fabric of reality. Or maybe there are just some errors somewhere. Anyway, in trying to guess what series has what text, there are a few things to sort out, and it may not happen for a while. Here are some possibilities:
1. Osho.com appears to be the only source of audio for either version of Kranti Sutra. So it may be out of line, and it has pulled these KS 1 titles out of a hat or somewhere else. Supporting this possibility is Osho World's e-book version of Kranti Sutra, this one, KS 2, which approximates the general idea of Diamond's 22-chapter book. Not that chapters are clearly indicated but there are spaces followed by what appear to be new chapter titles and no less than seventeen of these apparent titles match up with Diamond's titles in a similar order, four do not match in any way and one title is missing.
2. Audio is audio, and there's nothing wrong with Osho.com being the only one with audio. Osho World's e-book may be derived from Diamond's rogue book and at most can be said to endorse the possibility that Diamond's book is at least Osho's words, whatever the title. Supporting this idea is the impressive collection of errors Diamond has accumulated. They say that "Kranti Sutra in Hindu" was previously published as chapters 11-33 of "Main Kaheta Aukhan Dekhi". Astute arithmeticians will note that that would be 23 chapters, not 22.
Oh well. Leaving aside other possibilities for now, it must also be said that MKAD itself is awash in a sea of ambiguities and anomalies which are explored over there. Suffice it to say that it would be difficult to find a way to come to 33 chapters for that series. Not one of the wildly divergent sources of info for that series would come close. It may be better to leave MKAD out of this for now. -- doofus-9 (talk) 07:45, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
