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Publishing anomalies and variations there are a-plenty. Both publishers even have more than one cover design. We'll start with Diamond.
Publishing anomalies and variations there are a-plenty for this book. Both publishers even have more than one cover design. We'll start with Diamond.


Diamond's two covers appeared at first to be associated with different formats, the primary (bigger image) one with hardback and the secondary one with a paperback edition. But that information turned out to be inconsistent. As did the pub dates, with both 2000 and 2008 associated with the second. A curious and major inconsistency turned up in the TOC available at G**gle Books for this one, and for a bonus twist, an inconsistency in that inconsistency. In the version of G**gle Books i got directly from my search, there was no TOC displayed at all, but at a third-party site, a blog, the blogger had his own version of G**gle Books posted, and that did include a TOC, where the chapter titles were different from those below and there were only four of them. One last and fairly trivial variability is in the spelling of the title and subtitle in Devanagari: Both Kranti and the "Aur" in the subtitle come in a couple of different ways, but may be fairly interchangeable in terms of search results.
Diamond's two covers appeared at first to be associated with different formats, the primary (bigger image) one with hardback and the secondary one with a paperback edition. But that information turned out to be inconsistent. As did the pub dates, with both 2000 and 2008 associated with the second. A curious and major inconsistency turned up in the TOC available at G**gle Books for this one, and for a bonus twist, an inconsistency in that inconsistency. In the version of G**gle Books i got directly from my search, there was no TOC displayed at all, but at a third-party site, a blog, the blogger had his own version of G**gle Books posted which did include a TOC, where the chapter titles were different from audio titles (see below) and there were only four of them, as opposed to six for the audios. One last and fairly trivial variability is in the spelling of the title and subtitle in Devanagari: Both Kranti and the "Aur" in the subtitle come in a couple of different ways, but may be fairly interchangeable in terms of search results.


All that aside, the most interesting curiosity of the Diamond edition may be its subtitle, Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Aur-3. Those who have been around the block with Osho's titles will recognise this as the classic original Hindi title of [[From Sex to Superconsciousness]]. But what is this "-3" all about? And what does this book have to do with SSSKA?
All that aside, the most interesting curiosity of the Diamond edition was for a while its subtitle, "Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Aur-3." Those who have been around the block with Osho's titles will recognise this as the classic original Hindi title of ''[[From Sex to Superconsciousness]]''. But what is this "-3" all about? And what does this book have to do with [[Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Aur (संभोग से समाधि की ओर)|''SSSKA'']]? Plenty, as it turns out.


As it happens, there is a similar subtitle attached to [[Jeevan Kranti Ke Sutra (जीवन क्रांति के सूत्र)]], only it's "-4". Could this be an unofficial thematic series of some kind? Perhaps at least in the mind of someone at Diamond? Anyway, let's keep an eye out for parts one and two, if such exist.  
There is a similar subtitle attached to ''[[Jeevan Kranti Ke Sutra (जीवन क्रांति के सूत्र)]]'', only it's "-4", which also caused considerable confusion when researching that book. Parts 1 and 2 have also now been found, with G**gle inside-the-book TOCs for all of them matching up, more or less, with the 18-chapter TOC of [[Talk:Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Aur (संभोग से समाधि की ओर)|''SSSKA'']].


And move on to the Hind edition(s). Not so much variability there but still a little. The alt-cover was found only once but maybe that was because i didn't go everywhere. On that one occasion, the publisher was named as Full Circle, the parent company of Hind. Oh well, no big deal there. The subtitle is a mouthful but has no associations or anomalies. So that's it for now. -- [[User:Sarlo|Sarlo]] ([[User talk:Sarlo|talk]]) 00:37, 25 May 2014 (PDT)
Moving on to the Hind edition(s), there is not so much variability there but still a little. The alt-cover was found only once but maybe that was because i didn't go everywhere. On that one occasion, the publisher was named as Full Circle, the parent company of Hind. Oh well, no big deal there. The subtitle is a mouthful but has no associations or anomalies. So that's it for now. -- updated [[User:Sarlo|Sarlo]] ([[User talk:Sarlo|talk]]) 11:15, 9 June 2014 (PDT)


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:प्रवचन (discourses), as mentioned:
Left in the table below are the audio discourse titles, and right, the titles in the four-chapter ''Nari'' Diamond TOC and in ''Sambhog''. Note that no title in either column correlates with any in the other column.
{| class="wikitable" border="1"
|-
|       audio discourse titles:
:1. नारी: दीनता से विद्रोह
:1. नारी: दीनता से विद्रोह
:2. नारी: प्रेम की पवित्रता
:2. नारी: प्रेम की पवित्रता
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:4. नारी: नई सभ्यता का केंद्र
:4. नारी: नई सभ्यता का केंद्र
:5. नारी: पुरुष की दासता से मुक्ति
:5. नारी: पुरुष की दासता से मुक्ति
:6. नारी: अपने अस्तित्व की घोषणा
:6. नारी: अपने अस्तित्व की घोषणा  
|       Diamond pb titles:
:1. जनसंख्या विस्फोटा
:2. प्रेम और विवाह
:3. नारी और क्रांति
:4. नारी: एक और आयाम  
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: 
|}

Revision as of 18:15, 9 June 2014

Publishing anomalies and variations there are a-plenty for this book. Both publishers even have more than one cover design. We'll start with Diamond.

Diamond's two covers appeared at first to be associated with different formats, the primary (bigger image) one with hardback and the secondary one with a paperback edition. But that information turned out to be inconsistent. As did the pub dates, with both 2000 and 2008 associated with the second. A curious and major inconsistency turned up in the TOC available at G**gle Books for this one, and for a bonus twist, an inconsistency in that inconsistency. In the version of G**gle Books i got directly from my search, there was no TOC displayed at all, but at a third-party site, a blog, the blogger had his own version of G**gle Books posted which did include a TOC, where the chapter titles were different from audio titles (see below) and there were only four of them, as opposed to six for the audios. One last and fairly trivial variability is in the spelling of the title and subtitle in Devanagari: Both Kranti and the "Aur" in the subtitle come in a couple of different ways, but may be fairly interchangeable in terms of search results.

All that aside, the most interesting curiosity of the Diamond edition was for a while its subtitle, "Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Aur-3." Those who have been around the block with Osho's titles will recognise this as the classic original Hindi title of From Sex to Superconsciousness. But what is this "-3" all about? And what does this book have to do with SSSKA? Plenty, as it turns out.

There is a similar subtitle attached to Jeevan Kranti Ke Sutra (जीवन क्रांति के सूत्र), only it's "-4", which also caused considerable confusion when researching that book. Parts 1 and 2 have also now been found, with G**gle inside-the-book TOCs for all of them matching up, more or less, with the 18-chapter TOC of SSSKA.

Moving on to the Hind edition(s), there is not so much variability there but still a little. The alt-cover was found only once but maybe that was because i didn't go everywhere. On that one occasion, the publisher was named as Full Circle, the parent company of Hind. Oh well, no big deal there. The subtitle is a mouthful but has no associations or anomalies. So that's it for now. -- updated Sarlo (talk) 11:15, 9 June 2014 (PDT)


Left in the table below are the audio discourse titles, and right, the titles in the four-chapter Nari Diamond TOC and in Sambhog. Note that no title in either column correlates with any in the other column.

      audio discourse titles:
1. नारी: दीनता से विद्रोह
2. नारी: प्रेम की पवित्रता
3. नारी: जीवन का आनंद
4. नारी: नई सभ्यता का केंद्र
5. नारी: पुरुष की दासता से मुक्ति
6. नारी: अपने अस्तित्व की घोषणा  
      Diamond pb titles:
1. जनसंख्या विस्फोटा
2. प्रेम और विवाह
3. नारी और क्रांति
4. नारी: एक और आयाम