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The dissonance in dates for events ''Suli Upar Sej Piya Ki ~ 01 ~ 08'' among two available sources:
The dissonance in dates for events ''Suli Upar Sej Piya Ki ~ 01 ~ 08'' among two available sources:


* Neeten: '''Nov 10''' 1970 to '''Nov 17''' 1970 (see [[Talk:Jyon Ki Tyon Dhari Dinhi Chadariya (ज्यों की त्यों धरि दीन्हीं चदरिया)]]). [[T.R.E.M.O. (source document)]] confirms these dates too.
* Neeten: '''Nov 10''' 1970 to '''Nov 17''' 1970 (see [[Talk:Jyon Ki Tyon Dhari Dinhi Chadariya (ज्यों की त्यों धरि दीन्हीं चदरिया)]]). [[T.R.E.M.O. (source document)]] and Jagdish confirm these dates too.
* CD-ROM: '''9/11'''/70 to '''16/11'''/70 (its English translation ''[[The Perennial Path: The Art of Living]]''). Other Sources confirm these dates too: [[Cross-reference list of early booklets and books (source document)]], [[Shailendra - Osho's Hindi books (source document)]], [[What Osho said when and where (source document)]]
* CD-ROM: '''9/11'''/70 to '''16/11'''/70 (its English translation ''[[The Perennial Path: The Art of Living]]''). Other Sources confirm these dates too: [[Cross-reference list of early booklets and books (source document)]], [[Shailendra - Osho's Hindi books (source document)]], [[What Osho said when and where (source document)]]




The current [[Osho Timeline 1970|Timeline]] has 10-17 of November according to dates from Hindi original ''[[Suli Upar Sej Piya Ki (सूली ऊपर सेज पिया की)]]'' and ''[[Jyon Ki Tyon Dhari Dinhi Chadariya (ज्यों की त्यों धरि दीन्हीं चदरिया)]]''. BUT English book ''The Perennial Path: The Art of Living'' has on one day less - from Nov 9, 1970 to Nov 16, 1970 as on CD-ROM. What is right?
The current [[Osho Timeline 1970|Timeline]] has 10-17 of November according to dates from Hindi original ''[[Suli Upar Sej Piya Ki (सूली ऊपर सेज पिया की)]]'' and ''[[Jyon Ki Tyon Dhari Dinhi Chadariya (ज्यों की त्यों धरि दीन्हीं चदरिया)]]''. BUT English book ''The Perennial Path: The Art of Living'' has on one day less - from Nov 9, 1970 to Nov 16, 1970 as on CD-ROM. What is right?
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Flip a coin! One factor that might eventually tip the balance is to consider the relative independence of sources. For example, the CD-ROM's source is undoubtedly ''The Perennial Path'', so it is not really independent. Same might be said for What Osho Said and Where. Can the book be wrong? Yes, but not likely. One possible answer: ask Neeten what are his sources? Is he sure? How did HE decide to make it Nov 10-17? -- doofus-9 16:07, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
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[[image:Jyon Ki Tyon Dhari Dinhi Chadariya 1995 contents.jpg|200px|right|thumb]]
Thanks to the TOC of ''[[Jyon Ki Tyon Dhari Dinhi Chadariya (ज्यों की त्यों धरि दीन्हीं चदरिया)]]'' (image on the right), we know the correct dates: it's 10 - 17 Nov 1970. --DhyanAntar 09:37, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
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Ch.4 compared with audios, see [[Talk:Nav-Sannyas Kya? (नव-संन्यास क्या?)]].--DhyanAntar 04:19, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 04:19, 7 October 2020

The dissonance in dates for events Suli Upar Sej Piya Ki ~ 01 ~ 08 among two available sources:


The current Timeline has 10-17 of November according to dates from Hindi original Suli Upar Sej Piya Ki (सूली ऊपर सेज पिया की) and Jyon Ki Tyon Dhari Dinhi Chadariya (ज्यों की त्यों धरि दीन्हीं चदरिया). BUT English book The Perennial Path: The Art of Living has on one day less - from Nov 9, 1970 to Nov 16, 1970 as on CD-ROM. What is right?


Flip a coin! One factor that might eventually tip the balance is to consider the relative independence of sources. For example, the CD-ROM's source is undoubtedly The Perennial Path, so it is not really independent. Same might be said for What Osho Said and Where. Can the book be wrong? Yes, but not likely. One possible answer: ask Neeten what are his sources? Is he sure? How did HE decide to make it Nov 10-17? -- doofus-9 16:07, 28 September 2018 (UTC)


Thanks to the TOC of Jyon Ki Tyon Dhari Dinhi Chadariya (ज्यों की त्यों धरि दीन्हीं चदरिया) (image on the right), we know the correct dates: it's 10 - 17 Nov 1970. --DhyanAntar 09:37, 2 October 2018 (UTC)


Ch.4 compared with audios, see Talk:Nav-Sannyas Kya? (नव-संन्यास क्या?).--DhyanAntar 04:19, 7 October 2020 (UTC)