Talk:Satya Ki Pyas (सत्य की प्यास)
Source of "Hyderabad" is the Hindi blurb, from o.com, who also supplied the titled discourses below, alas only six, best that could be found. Nine audios are supplied at the free download sites. It is not an unreasonable possibility that all nine talks are from Hyderabad.
- प्रवचन (TOC):
- 1. स्वतंत्रता--विचार की, विवेक की
- 2. प्रार्थना का अर्थ
- 3. सरलता
- 4. आत्म-विस्मरण नहीं, आत्म-स्मरण
- 5. शून्यता
- 6. अभय
Shailendra e-book has the same TOC as above (total - 6 chapters). --DhyanAntar 07:31, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Dates and Places
Some Dates and Places info is in from Jagdish, which, as often happens, sorts some things out and creates some new mysteries. Comments below.
- 1. Apr 1 1967 am Baheti Bhavan, Hyderabad
- 2. Apr 1 1967 pm Sadhana Ashram, Hyderabad (Q&A)
- 3. Apr 2 1967 am Baheti Bhavan, Hyderabad
- 4. Apr 2 1967 pm Sharda Ashram, Hyderabad (Q&A)
- 5. Apr 3 1967 am Baheti Bhavan, Hyderabad
- 6. Apr 3 1967 pm Sharda Ashram, Hyderabad (Q&A)
Not content with that, Jagdish included another version in the same image, linking Pyas with Satya Ka Anveshan (सत्य का अन्वेषण), but stirring up some questions:
- Anveshan 1. no info, source Samund Samana Bund Mein #1
- Anveshan 2. Nov 14 1965 pm Kavasji Jahangir Hall, Bombay, source Pyas #1
- Anveshan 3. Nov 15 1965 am Blavatsky Lodge, Bombay, source Pyas #2
- Anveshan 4. Nov 15 1965 pm Sarla Sarjan, Vile Parle, Bombay, source Pyas #3
- Anveshan 5. no info, source Prem Ke Pankh
All right! We have nine Pyas talks noted here, divided meaningfully into six in Hyderabad and three in Mumbai. This is great but ... we have to ask which of these two subgroups really came first. We cannot have two #1s, two #2s and two #3s. While we are mulling this, we can also consult with Shailendra's massive research doc Shifting content in Hindi books (source document), linking many cross-compilations that have happened over the years, especially among early Hindi books.
He links Pyas and Anveshan in the same way, adding what is likely the original source for both, Aath Pahar Youn Jhumte (आठ पहर यूं झूमते). In Aath Pahar's info we can confirm the dates and two of the three venues (and correct the "Belesti Lodge" there to "Blavatsky", and add "Sarla Sarjan", which was a real high school in Vile Parle). And Shailendra makes it clear that Pyas #2 is not the source for both Anveshan #3 and 4, so that typo can be corrected.
So! Which came first? Are the Mumbai talks #1, 2 and 3, or #7, 8 and 9? Given the earlier dates for the Pyas talks from Mumbai, it is tempting to make them first. Given the blurb about Hyderabad, the reverse is true. It seems better to decide one way or the other than leave it in a limbo, so for now, i will lean on that flipped coin in favour of Mumbai. It can be changed later if need be.
And about "Satya Ki Khoj" in the image, there is no reason for now to suppose that this has anything to do with the book Satya Ki Khoj (सत्य की खोज) that is a component of Neti-Neti (नेति-नेति) or any other Satya Ki Khoj that was hypothesized in the ramblings of SKK's talk page. We will leave it just as a data flotsam for now. -- doofus-9 18:29, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
media status
At OshoWorld, for this series there are 9 audios on offer: see here. Judging from the duration of the audio, #04 -- 09 correspond to osho.com's #01 -- 06. But what, then, are OW's #01 -- 03 ?
It needs to be researched what is what. --Sugit (talk) 05:01, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
