Talk:Phir Amrit Ki Boond Padi (फिर अमरित की बूंद पड़ी) (11 talks)

This book, Amrit for short, is one of three Hindi books arising from the World Tour. The other two are Koplen Phir Phoot Aayeen (कोंपलें फिर फूट आईं) and Phir Patto Ki Panjeba Baji (फिर पत्तो की पांजेबा बजी). All three titles have the word "Phir," meaning among other things, "again," a small but potentially significant element linking them all thematically. This is evident also in the subtitles, variations of "rediscovering forgotten treasure," of The Diamond Sword, a translation of Amrit and Koplen. All the Phir books were published by "Rajanisadhama Prakasana," a publisher likely based in Pune and operating only during the Ranch and World Tour times and extending into 1987 (finishing projects?)

The e-book version of Amrit found at Osho World has some dates and places embedded in it, seemingly coming at the end of chapters, though there is no real spacing, highlighting, different fonts, chapter titles or numbers etc to solidify that. Nonetheless, tantalizing info, never mind that there are too many dates and places for the supposed number of discourses, plus a potentially problematic overlap with Koplen. The dates and places fwiw are:

Jul 31, 1986, Sumila, Juhu, Bombay, found on p 20 of 169
Aug 2, 1986, Sumila, Juhu, Bombay, found on p 53
Aug 4, 1986, Sumila, Juhu, Bombay, found on p 66
Aug 6, 1986, Sumila, Juhu, Bombay, found on p 84
Aug 10, 1986, Sumila, Juhu, Bombay, found on p 99
Nov 20, 1985, Kullu Manali, found on p 118
Nov 23, 1985, Kullu Manali, found on p 129
Nov 24, 1985, Kullu Manali, found on p 140
Nov 25, 1985, Kullu Manali, found on p 153
Nov 28, 1985, Kullu Manali, found on p 169

The overlap dates/places with Koplen are those at Sumila. It has twelve discourses fit into the ten days from Jul 31 to Aug 9. It is not impossible that Amrit fits in there too. There is room, with only six Last Testament discourses in the ten days. But it may not be so likely, especially that there are two overlapping series that are relatively similar thematically.

Another explanation that may have some validity is this: There are only five audios for Amrit. Those could be the ones in Manali. Another source has said that both Amrit and Phir Patto are translations, not even original Hindi. That would seem to be untrue in the case of Amrit, given the Hindi audio, but how about the other five chapters? Could they be translations? This would perhaps make the inconsistent "facts" fit together a little better, and make a crooked kind of sense, except that the dates given for the Last Testament, Jul 31, Aug 1, 6, 7, 8, and 9, don't match up with Amrit's dates. Another idea is that Amrit, never having been published as such, might in its rough form have used some of the discourses from Koplen, since who knew how publication might eventually work out?

Oh well. Any other ideas? Stay tuned for the exciting conclusion, Part 3 of Phir Today, Gone Tomorrow. -- Sarlo (talk) 22:16, 1 May 2014 (PDT) -- updated by Sarlo (talk) 18:16, 21 May 2014 (PDT)