Talk:Anant Ki Pukar (अनंत की पुकार)
All sources agree that the discourse from Lonavala featured at A Gathering of Friends, given in Dec 1967, is Chapter 1 of Anant. Other talks from that two-day event are likely included too, none of it previously published elsewhere. A partial e-book version has some additional dates, presented below after the audiobook TOC.
Additionally, there is material given in semi-private meetings at various other camps, recorded but not necessarily included in the books that arose from those camps. Neeten's Osho Source Book (see link at his page) has a few entries for Anant, not all consistent, some of it suspect, but some pointing to these meetings for insiders doing the work. Two specific camps so cited are those of Prabhu Ki Pagdandiyan (प्रभु की पगडंडियां) at Nargol and Sambhavnaon Ki Aahat (संभावनाओं की आहट) at Matheran. An example:
- As for the structure of future camps aimed specifically at those people working together with him, Osho gave his considerations in a meeting, where he guided his friends and explained their work and responsibilities:
- "Today's gathering has been called because I have been thinking that from next time, the camps should be for four days instead of three. The first day should be for all the friends. One day should be spent with them, and the camp will start the next day. Then I can do something for them, and they can think and reflect in this direction. And in whichever village we are meeting, we are gathering together, there should be a one-hour sitting for the friends of that village who have become actively interested in doing the work. There should be a get-together for them in which we can think together how we can expand the work there. Whoever has any proposals should bring them and explain to the others how the work can move forward according to their ideas." Work is Love Made Visible (2011) #10
- During the meeting Osho also mentioned that Shri Narendra was doing his research on meditation and preparing his Ph.D. thesis on the subject after having finished his M.A. in psychology. He urged his seekers to inform Narendra about the changes happening to them as a result of their meditations, so he could complete his research. He also told the young people to create a youth force in their respective home towns. The discourses of this second camp of Nargol were published in Hindi in Prabhu ki Pagdandiyan (The Walkways of the Lord).
Neeten has sprinkled his OSB liberally with quotes from Work Is Love Made Visible. A couple, already juxtaposed nicely in his Jabalpur section, illustrate the subtlety and attention to the circumstances of the individual woven into the work:
- One friend translated my words into English. His translation could not have been right. Other people also told me that his translation was not right. I said, "But none of the people whose translations can be right ever say to me that they will translate something! This man says he can, so let him do it. When someone who translates correctly comes and says he wants to translate, I will let him translate. Right now, I let whoever comes do it. Just look at this poor man's courage! He doesn't know much English and yet he is translating." Work is Love Made Visible (2011) #6
- "Recently one friend translated something, but I didn't like it. He had translated The Perfect Way, but it was not a good translation. One thing was that he translated it in an Eastern way – just like Eastern scholars would, just as one would translate ancient scriptures like the Puranas. He translated it into archaic English. It did not feel good. And then he also made some fundamental mistakes. In many places the meaning became completely the opposite of what I had said. So that translation had to be stopped, it was not allowed to be sold. But the book had already reached some places." Work is Love Made Visible (2011) #8 -- doofus-9 (talk) 09:34, 3 October 2014 (PDT)
"TOC" below is from an audiobook version. Two such audiobooks were found, with all the same chapter titles but in a slightly different order:
- प्रवचन:
- 1. ध्यान-केंद्र की भूमिका
- 2. अवधिगत संन्यास
- 3. एक एक कदम
- 4. कार्यकर्ता की विशेष तैयारी
- 5. ‘मैं’ की छाया है दुख
- 6. संगठन और धर्म
- 7. ध्यान-केंद्र के बहुआयाम
- 8. रस और आनंद से जीने की कला
- 9. धर्म की एक सामूहिक दृष्टि
- 10. कार्यकर्ता का व्यक्तित्व
- 11. ध्यान-केंद्र: मनुष्य का मंगल
- 12. काम के नये आयाम
- 13. संगठन: अनूठा और क्रांतिकारी
As there are thirteen discourses in both sources and Work Is Love Made Visible has fourteen chapters with one original English chapter to go with those from Anant, thirteen shall be taken as the gold standard for this book.
Here are the data from the partial e-book mentioned above. There are errors and sifting it is complicated but there is some likely useful material in the end.
There are actually two e-books, one straightforwardly called Anant Ki Pukar, the other Talking to Workers. That's right: in the Hindi Sahitya section of Osho World's e-books, there is a Hindi e-book with this name. On the page it reads टॉकिंग तू वर्कर्स, ie Tocking Tu Varkars transliterated into Devanagari. It is only a 40-pager, compared with the 114 for Anant. The Anant e-book has basically just text, with no info about it except chapter numbers (only twelve, so one is missing there too). It also has a slightly more spacious layout, so that the chapters that match are about 10% "longer" in its version. The Workers e-book has more info but about fewer chapters. For convenience, Devanagari has been transliterated. Here we go, with notes following:
- 1. Workers Camp, Lonavala 23 Dec 1969 -- p 1-9/40 text matches Anant # 1 (p 1-11/114)
- 3. Workers Camp, Lonavala 24 Dec 1967 -- p 10-18 matches Anant # 3 (p 15-26)
- Workers Camp 9-4-68 no loc or # -- p 18-25 matches Anant # 9 (p 72-80)
- Workers Camp 22-1-68 no loc or # -- p 25-27, no match found
- Osho
- Jeevan Kranti Ke Sutra
- Workers Camp
- 16 Oct 1971 no loc or # -- p 27-40 matches Anant # 12 (p 99-114)
Aside from a typo in the year, the first discourse matches up well with known data. #3 fits in very well and extends what is known about the Dec '67 Lonavala camp. There may be no more from that camp (aside from #2) or there may be a few more, not likely more than five total.
The next discourse, not numbered but at least dated has an interesting correlate in Neeten's Appendix section (see Osho Source Book link at his page). He has a couple of entries around that time:
- - Karyakarta se Batein. 09.04.1968. Lonavala.
- - Haar: Ek Anuthi Bhaasha. 10.04.1968am.
These titles in his Appendix are often not series/book titles but discourse/chapter titles. A look above at the audiobook TOC does not create a great AHA! moment but okay. The second title has no resemblance at all to any of the TOC titles but the first word of his first title shows up in two titles of the TOC, and means "worker," so we may be onto something with that. And throw in Lonavala, just a few hours drive from Mumbai in those days, and we have some serious resonance.
The next discourse, at p 25-27 with no match ... maybe it's the one missing from the Anant e-book? Or who knows? It is followed by a line of space and then the lines as indicated above and then another space. The format in the rest of this e-book has been to have all the material about the chapter precede the chapter, with these spaces fore and aft. But here???? It looks like "Osho ... Jeevan Kranti Ke Sutra" may belong to the preceding unmatched two pages , and "Workers Camp ... 16 Oct 1971" with the #12 discourse which follows.
Jeevan Kranti is a series with a known, published core of four discourses but it has ten audios, with the other six basically unknown, so it may be that these two pages are from one of those. There seem to be other discourses on the day cited but a short talk with workers could fit in anywhere. -- updated doofus-9 (talk) 22:42, 2 January 2015 (PST)
