Talk:Jeevan Ki Khoj (जीवन की खोज)

Current Understanding

event	audio, OshoWorld	audio, Osho.com	2018 book ed., Oshoganga	Shailendra's PDF	Osho.com library	Dates & Places
Path Ki Khoj ~ 01	#1	Path Ki Khoj 1. आनंद हमारा स्वरूप है		Path Ki Khoj 1. आनंद हमारा स्वरूप है	Path Ki Khoj 1. आनंद हमारा स्वरूप है	unknown (8 Sep 1964, Bombay ? )
Path Ki Khoj ~ 02	#2	Path Ki Khoj 2. आत्म-दर्शन		Path Ki Khoj 2. आत्म-दर्शन	Path Ki Khoj 2. आत्म-दर्शन	9 Sep 1964 am, Tarabai Hall, Bombay
Path Ki Khoj ~ 03	#3	Path Ki Khoj 3. मूर्च्छा परिग्रह		Path Ki Khoj 3. मूर्च्छा परिग्रह	Path Ki Khoj 3. मूर्च्छा परिग्रह	9 Sep 1964 om, Tarabai Hall, Bombay ?
Path Ki Khoj ~ 04	#4	Path Ki Khoj 4. जीवन-दर्शन		Path Ki Khoj 4. जीवन-दर्शन	Path Ki Khoj 4. जीवन-दर्शन	9 Sep 1964 pm, Amulakh Amichand HS, Bombay
Jeevan Ki Khoj ~ 01	#5	1. प्यास	1. प्यास	1. प्यास	1. प्यास	28 Dec 1965 pm, Kavasaji Jahangir Hall, Bombay
Jeevan Ki Khoj ~ 02	#6	2. मार्ग	2. मार्ग	2. मार्ग	2. मार्ग	29 Dec 1965, 8:30, Kavasaji Jahangir Hall, Bombay
Vigyan, Dharm Aur Kala ~ 06	Vigyan Dharam Aur Kala #6	3. मृत्यु का बोध (*1)			3. मृत्यु का बोध	1967?
Jeevan Ki Khoj ~ 03	#7	4. द्वार	3. द्वार	3. द्वार	4. द्वार	30 Dec 1965, 8:30, Kavasaji Jahangir Hall, Bombay
Jeevan Ki Khoj ~ 04	#8	5. प्रवेश	4. प्रवेश	4. प्रवेश	5. प्रवेश	31 Dec 1965, 8:30, Kavasaji Jahangir Hall, Bombay
Jeevan Ki Kala ~ 01	#9	Jeevan Ki Kala 1. विचार, चिंतन और विवेक		Jeevan Ki Kala 1. विचार, चिंतन और विवेक		late 1960s, Bombay ?

notes

(*1) In earlier collections of this series on osho.com there were only audios 1 - 4, i.e. the present numbers 1,2,4 and 5, as shown in the "Khajana"-audio-collection (acquired around 2011). Present JKK #03 was added later to the series.

Deliberations

Osho World has this book in its collection of Hindi e-books, sort of but not. It is listed there with 88 other Hindi titles but "Not available." Close but no cigar. The Hindi blurb about the book on the main page here mentions four discourses of responses to questions in Mumbai. This was in conjunction with audiobook offers, containing only the four discourse titles below. It is not known if the five "missing" discourses are also in Mumbai. And yes, "missing" is in quotes because all nine are available as free downloads, presumably lesser quality. -- Sarlo (talk) 20:55, 12 July 2014 (PDT)

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प्रवचन:

1. प्यास

2. मार्ग

3. द्वार

4. प्रवेश

These four are the only titled discourses on offer at Osho World or osho.com. The simple titles suggest something, perhaps a thematic compilation, but who knows? FWIW, they are, in order, pyas - thirst, marg - the path, dwar - the gate, pravesh - entry. They make a progression, four steps on the great journey.

Three more chapter titles have been found in the TOC of Jeevan-Amrit (जीवन-अमृत), a compilation which purports to offer seven whole discourses from JKK and nine from Girah Hamara Sunn Mein (गिरह हमारा सुन्न में). The four chapters above are the first four of Amrit, followed by:

5. ध्यान की भूमि

6. संकल्प के बीज

7. प्रभु के पास

Perhaps these will stand the test of time. -- doofus-9 08:03, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

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We also now have some Dates and Places info from Jagdish:

1. Dec 28 1965 pm Kavasji Jahangir Hall, Mumbai

2. Dec 29 1965 am

3. Dec 30 1965 am

4. Dec 31 1965 am

It is assumed for now that the venue for the other talks was the same.

This helps clear up a misconception that arose recently concerning JKK and its relationship with other series, though many questions remain. The misconception concerns an entanglement with Chit Chakmak Lage Nahin (चित चकमक लागै नहीं) suggested by Dates and Places info for that book. As that info was the only source for this entanglement, which had many problems, it looks safe to disregard it now. See Chit Chakmak's talk page for details.

The questions that remain have to do with JKK's many mentions in Shifting content in Hindi books (source document), which have it all over the place, without getting into detail right now. -- doofus-9 21:29, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

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On relation with Jeevan-Amrit (जीवन-अमृत): 4 printed chapters of JKK published in JA as first 4 chapters. Btw, Vigyan, Dharm Aur Kala ~ 06 also presented in that book too.--DhyanAntar 07:13, 11 May 2020 (UTC)