Talk:Sakshi Ka Bodh (साक्षी का बोध)

More info has surfaced about this elusive series in the form of an image of Dates and Places, from Jagdish. That the same image also deals with D&P info for Girah Hamara Sunn Mein (गिरह हमारा सुन्न में) needn't distract or detract from its info, but it is an unusual presentation, and the dates for Sakshi are fraught with difficulties, overlapping with fragments of another book, Chal Hansa Us Des (चल हंसा उस देस), which had two talks at this same camp.

First the details, then the discussion:

1. Feb 4 1966 am Tulsishyam camp

2. Feb 4 1966 om Tulsishyam camp

3. Feb 4 1966 pm Tulsishyam camp

4. Feb 5 1966 om Tulsishyam camp

These fit rather awkwardly with the two "known" dates for Chal Hansa, which are -- first two chapters, rest come later in Mumbai -- Feb 4 and 6, with no time of day specified. It would be nice to spot some simple possibility, whereby one hypothetical typo gets corrected and everything looks normal and right, but such spotting is not happening. Possibly one or two of the talks on Feb 4 were actually on the 5th, with the am's and om's shuffled around. Not simple or elegant but it might work. Why this one camp spawned two series is also a funny business. Still, it does sort of explain what happened to the "missing" Tulsishyam discourses, the gap in Chal Hansa's two camp talks in three days. -- doofus-9 08:33, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

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And actually, the simplest possibility, now discerned with a wider vision, is that one of Chal Hansa's dates can be changed and then everything fits together decently. And in fact, the gap between Chal Hansa's two talks was always a bit strange, making having the four Sakshi talks first, exactly as they are described in the image, and then the two Chal Hansa talks all the more aesthetically satisfying. That it would require the least alteration to existing source data thus makes it highly attractive.

The apparent facticity of a Chal Hansa talk on Feb 4th is fairly reasonable, given its apparently solid source, a near-publication quality e-book. But a mistake there is not unthinkable, so Chal Hansa's first discourse has been moved from the 4th to the 5th in the Timeline.

For now. -- doofus-9 08:57, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

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And eventually, as always seems to happen, that "now" has become a "then", and yr faithful wiki editors have come to learn that those dates for Chal Hansa's two talks, on the 4th and 6th of Feb in Tulsishyam, have become more solid, being confirmed by their mention in the hard copy RF edition of 1980. This cannot so easily be brushed aside though it is neither aesthetically pleasing nor practical, so what to do? We may have to move one or two talks of Sakshi to the 5th to make things more balanced, since four talks on the 4th and only one each on the 5th and 6th is extremely unlikely. So be it! -- doofus-9 23:12, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

media status

Three tracks are available on Osho.com:

• #1: 1. ध्यान आत्मिक दशा है and 2. साक्षीभाव - audio quality is not good 64min
• #2: 3. ध्यान एकमात्र योग है - audio quality is not good 43min
• #3: 4. सत्य की खोज - audio quality is not good 37min

OshoWorld does not have this title among their free offerings, but see Talk:Sakshi Ki Sadhana (साक्षी की साधना) : the chapter titles suggest Sakshi Ki Sadhana #09 -- 12.

It needs to be researched what is what. --Sugit (talk) 06:33, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

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