Talk:Tao Upanishad, Bhag 2 (ताओ उपनिषद, भाग दो)
Other sources have different ideas for the discourse dates but the current one looks best.
Also, images for Diamond P editions are identical (so far for vols 1 and 2) to Fusion H editions. No mystery but separate files have been created. Unnecessarily? -- Sarlo (talk) 08:09, 27 January 2014 (PST)
Unnecessarily?
yes, let's delete them. --Rudra (talk) 13:00, 27 January 2014 (PST)
TOC below is from the audiobook places, osho.com and Osho World. Titles are the same in each except where noted. As it happens, the OW versions in this vol are preferred, not always the case. The discourse numbering is also the same, with numbers going from 1 to 127 over the six volumes of this mega-series, with each volume comprising 21 talks except for the first one, which has 22. Thus this volume is numbered from 23 to 43. -- doofus-9 20:59, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
- 23. सफलता के खतरे, अहंकार की पीड़ा और स्वर्ग का द्वार
- 24. शरीर व आत्मा की एकता, ताओ की प्राण-साधना व अविकारी स्थिति
- 25. उद्देश्य-मुक्त जीवन, आमंत्रण भरा भाव व नमनीय मेधा
- 26. ताओ की अनुपस्थित उपस्थिति
- 27. अनस्तित्व और खालीपन है आधार सब का [In this one, o.com has run the last two words together. It also is a viable word but makes less sense here.]
- 28. ऐंद्रिक भूख की नहीं—नाभि-केंद्र की आध्यात्मिक भूख की फिक्र [In this one, o.com has rendered नाभि as नाभी.G**gle Translate prefers नाभि.]
- 29. ताओ की साधना—योग के संदर्भ में
- 30. एक ही सिक्के के दो पहलू: सम्मान व अपमान, लोभ व भय
- 31. अहंकार-शून्य व्यक्ति ही शासक होने योग्य है [In this one, o.com has dropped the है at the end. Looks better with it, as seen from here.]
- 32. अदृश्य, अश्राव्य व अस्पर्शनीय ताओ
- 33. अक्षय व निराकार, सनातन व शून्यता की प्रतिमूर्ति
- 34. संत की पहचान: सजग व अनिर्णीत, अहंशून्य व लीलामय
- 35. विश्रांति से समता व मध्य मार्ग से मुक्ति
- 36. तटस्थ प्रतीक्षा, अस्मिता-विसर्जन व अनेकता में एकता
- 37. निष्क्रियता, नियति व शाश्वत नियम में वापसी
- 38. ताओ का द्वार—सहिष्णुता व निष्पक्षता
- 39. श्रेष्ठ शासक कौन?—जो परमात्मा जैसा हो
- 40. ताओ के पतन पर सिद्धांतों का जन्म
- 41. सिद्धांतों व आचरण में नहीं, सरल-सहज स्वभाव में जीना
- 42. आध्यात्मिक वासना का त्याग व सरल स्व का उदघाटन [o.com has replaced a simple सरल with सरल-सहज, unnecessarily it seems.]
- 43. धर्म है—स्वयं जैसा हो जाना
Dates and Places info is now in from Jagdish, image right plus text version below. Dates are as in the current Timeline, including times of day as well. Note that Jagdish uses a collective chapter numbering system for all the volumes of Tao Up, which happens to be the one in use in this first edition (as well as the system for the later Rebel editions) but most of the other Tao Up volumes are numbered simply 1-21 in their first editions. (Those other First Eds are from Rajneesh Foundation. It may well be that a second edition exists from RF that uses numbers 1-21 for this Bhag, this is not known.) To align with the practice in the other Bhags, both numbers are included in the D&P list below, with the collective numbering in parentheses.
- Bhag 2 01 (023) Jan 29 1972 pm Sydenham College Bombay
- Bhag 2 02 (024) Jan 30 1972 pm Sydenham College Bombay
- Bhag 2 03 (025) Jan 31 1972 pm Sydenham College Bombay
- Bhag 2 04 (026) Feb 1 1972 pm Sydenham College Bombay
- Bhag 2 05 (027) Feb 2 1972 pm Sydenham College Bombay
- Bhag 2 06 (028) Feb 3 1972 pm Sydenham College Bombay
- Bhag 2 07 (029) Feb 4 1972 pm Sydenham College Bombay Q&A
- Bhag 2 08 (030) Apr 13 1972 pm Patkar Hall Bombay
- Bhag 2 09 (031) Apr 14 1972 pm Patkar Hall Bombay
- Bhag 2 10 (032) Apr 15 1972 pm Patkar Hall Bombay
- Bhag 2 11 (033) Apr 16 1972 pm Patkar Hall Bombay
- Bhag 2 12 (034) Apr 17 1972 pm Patkar Hall Bombay
- Bhag 2 13 (035) Apr 18 1972 pm Patkar Hall Bombay
- Bhag 2 14 (036) Apr 19 1972 pm Patkar Hall Bombay Q&A
- Bhag 2 15 (037) Jun 15 1972 pm Patkar Hall Bombay
- Bhag 2 16 (038) Jun 16 1972 pm Patkar Hall Bombay
- Bhag 2 17 (039) Jun 17 1972 am Patkar Hall Bombay
- Bhag 2 18 (040) Jun 18 1972 pm Patkar Hall Bombay
- Bhag 2 19 (041) Jun 19 1972 pm Patkar Hall Bombay
- Bhag 2 20 (042) Jun 20 1972 pm Patkar Hall Bombay
- Bhag 2 21 (043) Jun 21 1972 pm Patkar Hall Bombay Q&A
There is also the question of the venue, which up to now has been "Immortal Study Circle, Bombay" for possibly every Tao Up discourse given before the move to Pune, which is to say this volume and Bhags 1, 3 and 4. The D&P info from Jagdish suggests this "study circle" is not actually a venue. (See the D&P images in the Talk pages for Bhag 1, Bhag 3 and Bhag 4 to get the complete picture.)
The venues will be updated to reflect Jagdish's understanding here. For a thorough discussion of the ins and outs of this, see Bhag 4's Talk page.
Note also the Q&A discourses, popping up fairly regularly at the end of each seven-talk round. Here in Bhag 2, they are not so regular in Jagdish's survey, but they are in the hand-written notes added to the Contents page, so a view has been taken that this regularity is the case, as it is in Bhags 3 and 4. In the other Bhags, it seems to be less so, but when the Q&A's do come, they are at the end of a seven-talk cycle. -- doofus-9 07:59, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
