The Transmission of the Lamp ~ 12

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event type discourse
date & time 1 Jun 1986 am
location Punta Del Este, Montevideo, Uruguay
language English
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shorttitle TRANSM12
Reader of the questions: Ma Prem Maneesha.
Question 1
Beloved Osho, I have just read an article by Stephen Jay Gould, a warm, amusing, open-minded scientist whose field is biology, and particularly evolution. It seems probable that about five to eight million years ago the chimp-human ancestral line split into what was to become modern chimp and modern man. Homo erectus appeared about a million or so years ago.
The interest in all this is that if true, it means that man learned to stand up very fast in evolutionary terms -- over only about a million years. Elsewhere, in trying to explain missing fossils it has been suggested that evolution is not necessarily slow, but may occur in sudden leaps.
When I think of an imaginary conversation between pre-chimp and pre-human, as they parted company so long ago, I think of you talking to mankind.
Are we living through an equally momentous point in evolution, where you, as the first of homo novus point to a beautiful vision which is as far removed from homo sapiens as he, in turn, is from the chimpanzee? Might the jump into enlightenment as a quantum leap in consciousness have any natural equivalent in evolutionary jumps in the physical world?
Question 2
Edited excerpt: 9min 12sec, question 2 **
Beloved Osho, when we start watching our bodies, and then our minds and emotions, there remains an element, although subtle, of concentration. Initially, for example, watching my breathing, I would watch it to the exclusion of everything else -- here there was an element of focus. On other occasions, when silence is just there, the breathing may be all there is to watch. This seems to be nearer, but still I feel that more soft focusing of the awareness would take me further and further back, as if relaxing enough to let the watcher move far enough away so that all is seen, rather than any one thing like thoughts or breathing. Does relaxing allow the watcher to be on the hill?
Question 3
Beloved Osho, once, some years ago, while making love, I disappeared. I would like to say, "literally disappeared," because I felt as if all of me simply vanished. But certainly my body must have been there, because my partner didn't notice that he was suddenly alone. I heard my voice say: "I am going," and then possibly only for a second or two, no one was there. Though I have had moments of joy while making love since, I have always been present to know that they are moments of joy. Presumably ecstasy was the trigger for what happened, but the happening itself wasn't ecstatic, it wasn't anything, it simply was.
Is meditation that previous stage of ecstasy, or that state of not-even-ecstasy, just isness?
Question 4
Beloved Osho, laughing with you is such a beautiful, pure and freeing experience. Within seconds it takes away all heaviness and thoughts. I would like to dance the path with you, laughing and laughing. What is laughing in you? What is laughing in us, and wants to laugh? What is the difference between a buddha's laughter and the disciple's laughter?
Question 5
Beloved Osho, one of the things I have heard some people say about you is that they think you are the Antichrist.
Would you please comment?
Question 6 from Sw Milarepa
Beloved Osho, for Christians, the greatest miracle is that Jesus could walk on water.
As I saw you wobble, entering the room yesterday morning, I held my breath. Is not the greatest miracle just that you make it to your chair walking on the ordinary floors of this house?


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