Talk:Sukh Aur Shanti (सुख और शांति)

Patan is located about 100 km North of Ahmedabad fwiw. Since the source connecting it with Sukh Aur Shanti is unknown, there's no need to be attached to that connection as a fact.

The main event here, such as it is, is the audio info. The usual free download places have nine discourses. Osho.com offers ten in its audiobook but notes that #9 and #10 have parts missing. Osho World has twelve in its audiobook offering, the first ten being the same as osho.com's, plus two more. They are presented below. -- Sarlo (talk) 09:10, 19 July 2014 (PDT)

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Dates and Places info supplied by Jagdish has given us a rough sketch of the time frame, with some details still missing. Comments below.

1. Mar 19 1966 pm Azad Chowk, Patan GJ

2. Mar 20 1966 am New Market, Maneklal Jethalal Town Hall, Ellisbridge, Ahmedabad

3. Mar 20 1966 pm New Market, Maneklal Jethalal Town Hall, Ellisbridge, Ahmedabad

4. Dec 4 1966 pm Lions Club, Lashkar, Pune

5. Dec 29 1966 am Paratwada (NE Maharashtra)

6. Mar 3 1967 pm Vallabh Vidyanagar, Anand GJ

7. Jan 15 1967 am Gujarat Vidyapith, Ahmedabad

8. Jan 17 1967 am Ahmedabad

9. no date Meditation Camp Q&A

10. no date

11. no audio

12. no audio

1. We can see that the info about "Patan" does have some validity, but it is rather thin, applying apparently only to the first talk. "Azad Chowk" could not be found in Patan in a current G**gle map but it is a small town and perhaps does not have its map enthusiasts. Azad Chowk ("Freedom Square") exists in many Indian cities, so no reason why not Patan. As for a camp in Patan, that remains still possible, as info on the last four discourses is incomplete, but at least point to a camp somewhere.
2. "Maneklal Jethalal Town Hall, Ellisbridge", a hand-written addition, has been seen before as such. See Talk:Tamso Ma Jyotirgamaya (तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय) for more on that. And again, as in 1, "Patna" has been corrected.
3. And we can get a sense of the reason(s) for the different numbers, 9, 10 and 12. -- doofus-9 22:50, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

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Sarlo, you stated incorrect period "Mar 19 1966 to Mar 3 1966".--DhyanAntar 04:20, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

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Good spotting, fixed now. And about that talk on Mar 3 1967, it turns out to have a collision with Shiksha Mein Kranti (शिक्षा में क्रांति) #3: same date, same time, same place (sort of, with different points of reference), see the timeline. Source for that Shiksha event is the CD-ROM, which we don't gainsay lightly, so perhaps they are not really in conflict, perhaps it is all one happy event, a collusion rather than a collision. -- doofus-9 08:38, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

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They are checked and are different for sure.--DhyanAntar 06:59, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

media status

OshoWorld paid CD audiobook TOC:

प्रवचन:

1. अमृत-बिंदु

2. भागना नहीं, जागना

3. परिधि नहीं, केंद्र है महत्वपूर्ण

4. आदर्श नहीं, तथ्य

5. विधायक संकल्प

6. क्षण में भगवान

7. अनूठी दिशा

8. परिपूर्ण स्वीकृति

9. अमृत मंथन

10. जीवन ही है आनंद

11. सुख नहीं, आनंद

12. विश्वास नहीं, विवेक

osho.com mentions 10 audios:

• #1: अमृत-बिंदु 56min
• #2: भागना नहीं, जागना 55min
• #3: परिधि नहीं, केंद्र है महत्वपूर्ण 62min
• #4: आदर्श नहीं, तथ्य 78min
• #5: विधायक संकल्प 61min
• #6: क्षण में भगवान 88min
• #7: अनूठी दिशा 53min
• #8: परिपूर्ण स्वीकृति 83min
• #9: अमृत-मथंन - (incomplete) 34min
• #10: जीवन ही आनंद है - (beginning missing) 35min

The free offering of OW has 9 mp3s. Judging from the duration of the audios, these can correspond to #01 -- 09 of osho.com.

It needs to be checked what is what, and especially what the discourse #10 -- 12 are. --Sugit (talk) 10:10, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

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Ch.8 of Shailendra's PDF is Dharm Aur Anand ~ 09. See also Shifting content in Hindi books (source document).--DhyanAntar 03:24, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

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A part of ch.3 (of Shailendra's PDF) available on OshoWorld incorrectly in audio Sakshi Ki Sadhana #10 from 48:42.--DhyanAntar 12:32, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

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OW audio Sukh Aur Shanti #6:

before 52m 16s (end of recording of event incomplete) = Shailendra's PDF ch.6 from p.75 (beginning of the chapter) to p.84

after 52m 16s (beginning of event incomplete) = Shailendra's PDF ch.10

In middle of p.84 of Shailendra PDF it is given note: first line is not recognizable, then

"Note: It seems after reading Dariya Dekhe Janiye that this discourse is complete in itself. Upper part.......lower part is a part of another discourse ..... Please check Fariya Dekhe Janiye .....old book number 6 there is some other matter which is not typed ......

"Note: lower matter became matter number #10 of this series.

"Dariya Dekhe Janiye old book number 6 last part"

After these notes there follows a night meditation of Jeevan Geet ~ 03.--updated.--DhyanAntar 10:49, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

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9th OW audio is ch.9 of Shailendra's PDF. Both incomplete, but it is complete in new 9-chapter version from him.

Shailendra provided 9-chapter version of doc file, which matches to OW audios (it needs to check it, up to now checked #6 and 9). It has following differences with his previous PDF:

• ch.1-5, 7-8 matches in both versions;
• ch.6 (p.75-mid.of 84) + ch.10 (from PDF) is ch.6 in new version;
• ch.9 is complete in new version (the end of event is taken from other Shailendra's PDF Kaha Kahun Us Des Ki (कहा कहूं उस देस की) ch.4 (there is presented only last question);
• ch.11-12 (from PDF) are not presented in new version (perhaps because they do not have audios).

--DhyanAntar 03:56, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

OW audio #9 starts from beginning event, q.3 there is incomplete. Osho.com audio has the same problem. However q.3 is available in complete form in his other PDF Kaha Kahun Us Des Ki as ch.4.--DhyanAntar 06:06, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

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Ch.11 of Shailendra's PDF matches with Sukh Nahin Anand Khojen (सुख नहीं आनंद खोजें). The booklet has date and place of the talk. Related event Sukh Nahin Anand Khojen ~ 01 to be renamed?--DhyanAntar 09:55, 25 November 2020 (UTC)