Talk:Sukh Aur Shanti (सुख और शांति)
Patan is located about 100 km North of Ahmedabad fwiw. Since the source connecting it with Sukh Aur Shanti is unknown, there's no need to be attached to that connection as a fact.
The main event here, such as it is, is the audio info. The usual free download places have nine discourses. Osho.com offers ten in its audiobook but notes that #9 and #10 have parts missing. Osho World has twelve in its audiobook offering, the first ten being the same as osho.com's, plus two more. They are presented below. -- Sarlo (talk) 09:10, 19 July 2014 (PDT)
Dates and Places info supplied by Jagdish has given us a rough sketch of the time frame, with some details still missing. Comments below.
- 1. Mar 19 1966 pm Azad Chowk, Patan GJ
- 2. Mar 20 1966 am New Market, Maneklal Jethalal Town Hall, Ellisbridge, Ahmedabad
- 3. Mar 20 1966 pm New Market, Maneklal Jethalal Town Hall, Ellisbridge, Ahmedabad
- 4. Dec 4 1966 pm Lions Club, Lashkar, Pune
- 5. Dec 29 1966 am Paratwada (NE Maharashtra)
- 6. Mar 3 1967 pm Vallabh Vidyanagar, Anand GJ
- 7. Jan 15 1967 am Gujarat Vidyapith, Ahmedabad
- 8. Jan 17 1967 am Ahmedabad
- 9. no date Meditation Camp Q&A
- 10. no date Meditation Camp Q&A
- 11. no audio
- 12. no audio
1. We can see that the info about "Patan" does have some validity, but it is rather thin, applying apparently only to the first talk. "Azad Chowk" could not be found in Patan in a current G**gle map but it is a small town and perhaps does not have its map enthusiasts. Azad Chowk ("Freedom Square") exists in many Indian cities, so no reason why not Patan. As for a camp in Patan, that remains still possible, as info on the last four discourses is incomplete, but at least point to a camp somewhere.
2. "Maneklal Jethalal Town Hall, Ellisbridge", a hand-written addition, has been seen before as such. See Talk:Tamso Ma Jyotirgamaya (तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय) for more on that. And again, as in 1, "Patna" has been corrected.
3. And we can get a sense of the reason(s) for the different numbers, 9, 10 and 12. -- doofus-9 22:50, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
Sarlo, you stated incorrect period "Mar 19 1966 to Mar 3 1966".--DhyanAntar 04:20, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Good spotting, fixed now. And about that talk on Mar 3 1967, it turns out to have a collision with Shiksha Mein Kranti (शिक्षा में क्रांति) #3: same date, same time, same place (sort of, with different points of reference), see the timeline. Source for that Shiksha event is the CD-ROM, which we don't gainsay lightly, so perhaps they are not really in conflict, perhaps it is all one happy event, a collusion rather than a collision. -- doofus-9 08:38, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
media status
OshoWorld paid CD audiobook TOC:
- प्रवचन:
- 1. अमृत-बिंदु
- 2. भागना नहीं, जागना
- 3. परिधि नहीं, केंद्र है महत्वपूर्ण
- 4. आदर्श नहीं, तथ्य
- 5. विधायक संकल्प
- 6. क्षण में भगवान
- 7. अनूठी दिशा
- 8. परिपूर्ण स्वीकृति
- 9. अमृत मंथन
- 10. जीवन ही है आनंद
- 11. सुख नहीं, आनंद
- 12. विश्वास नहीं, विवेक
osho.com mentions 10 audios, but has only 2 available:
- #1: अमृत-बिंदु 56min
- #2: भागना नहीं, जागना 55min
- #3: परिधि नहीं, केंद्र है महत्वपूर्ण 62min
- #4: आदर्श नहीं, तथ्य 78min
- #5: विधायक संकल्प 61min
- #6: क्षण में भगवान 88min
- #7: अनूठी दिशा 53min
- #8: परिपूर्ण स्वीकृति 83min
- #9: अमृत-मथंन - (incomplete) 34min
- #10: जीवन ही आनंद है - (beginning missing) 35min
The free offering of OW has 9 mp3s. Judging from the duration of the audios, these can correspond to #01 -- 09 of osho.com.
It needs to be checked what is what, and especially what the discourse #10 -- 12 are. --Sugit (talk) 10:10, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
