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There was an earlier edtion mentioned: The Long and the Short and the All, 1975, Publisher: Motilal Banarsidass Publishers, Delhi. No information on edition, nr. of pages.

Removed, as I have not found any source for this. -- Sugit (talk) 11:36, 2 December 2013 (PST)


Neeten mentions this earlier edition in his Osho Source Book Bibliography section. -- Sarlo (talk) 10:53, 11 August 2014 (PDT)


OK, re-added that edition. -- Sugit (talk) 00:50, 14 August 2014 (PDT)


Sources

Antar has compared this book with it's sources. --Sugit (talk) 13:25, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Hindi first edition English first edition notes
Prem Ke Pankh (प्रेम के पंख) ("Wings of Love") Wings of Love and Random Thoughts Hindi text not available
Naye Sanket (नये संकेत) Wings of Love and Random Thoughts Hindi text not available
Main Kaun Hun? (मैं कौन हूं?) (writings) Who Am I
Agyat Ki Or (अज्ञात की ओर) Towards the Unknown
Main Mrityu Sikhata Hun (मैं मृत्यु सिखाता हूं), ch.1 & 2 The Mysteries of Life and Death All editions have the same text.
We were not able to trace the English texts back to Main Kaun Hun, with the help of Google Translate. Probably translation is too crude, and the editing too strong for this.
So, for now, we are not able to assign Hindi event-names (i.e. on the level of chapters) to these writings, except for The Mysteries of Life and Death.
It was possible though to trace the text of The Long back to it's English sources.
All of the contents of the above English books has been found in The Long except one: Wings ch.4 #038 :
"Dharma means death -- death of the self. How can he whose self is dead attain the universal? Shake off the ego. Give up self-worship. Eschewing self-worship is the worship of the Supreme Soul."
In the table below, the decimal chapter-numbers (first column "parts") are just for indicating the order, there are no numbers in the book.
The chapters mentioned with source "Wings" is the 5 chapter-arrangement used on the CD-ROM. The book itself (1979) has 2 chapters: "Wings of Love" (CD-ROM ch.1 & 2) and "Random Thoughts" (CD-ROM ch.3, 4 & 5).
The #numbers mentioned are the numbers of the "Random Thoughts", used in both book and CD-ROM.
The Long and the Short and the All - sources
part marked or first text English source
1 Chapter #1 - Knowledge and understanding
1.01 You ask what my message is? Wings - ch.4 #158
1.02 No man is given manhood ready-made. Wings - ch.4 #063
1.03 Man does not become God by developing himself. Wings - ch.4 #065
1.04 It is no exaggeration to say that we have forgotten ourselves. Wings - ch.5 #209
1.05 Gurdjieff has said that man is a machine Who Am I - ch.06
1.06 It is true that man is not an animal Wings - ch.4 #096
1.07 Religious leaders Wings - ch.4 #133
1.08 It makes no difference if no one recognizes me Wings - ch.4 #152
1.09 You want to know how to realize the self? Wings - ch.5 #216
1.10 What is this thing called consciousness? Wings - ch.5 #210
1.11 It is certainly very difficult Wings - ch.5 #169
1.12 The greatest freedom Wings - ch.4 #062
1.13 Knowledge says "I and emptiness" Wings - ch.5 #179
1.14 To know existence Wings - ch.3 #027
1.15 Nothing is simpler than greatness. Wings - ch.4 #050
1.16 To realize existence Wings - ch.3 #004
1.17 A set of ethics cannot be religion Wings - ch.5 #218
1.18 Remember one truth all your life Wings - ch.4 #051
1.19 What is good conduct? Wings - ch.5 #217
1.20 There is no greater affliction Wings - ch.4 #137
1.21 A very small lamp can dispel th darkness Wings - ch.4 #043
1.22 In the search of life Wings - ch.4 #070
1.23 On a gravestone it read Wings - ch.5 #176
1.24 Is there anyone who can deceive us Wings - ch.5 #195
1.25 Do we not use different yardsticks Wings - ch.5 #213
1.26 I do not ask you to believe in others. Wings - ch.4 #041
1.27 Man has to struggle against the ego Wings - ch.4 #066
1.28 Do not try to run away from your ego Wings - ch.4 #067
1.29 You want your life to be hell? Wings - ch.5 #190
1.30 There is no hell except egoism. Wings - ch.4 #103
1.31 Pride never allows the flower of knowledge to bloom Wings - ch.4 #107
1.32 I knew a man who had never committed an error Wings - ch.5 #177
1.33 What exists can fade into nothingness Wings - ch.3 #028
1.34 It is foolishness to expect peace Wings - ch.4 #116
1.35 The gates of bliss are close at hand. Wings - ch.4 #136
1.36 There is an invisible inner fire Wings - ch.4 #042
1.37 Where is ignorance to be found? Wings - ch.4 #114
1.38 Lust Wings - ch.4 #115
1.39 Pursuing your lecherous fantasies Wings - ch.4 #119
1.40 The pleasure of the senses Wings - ch.4 #145
1.41 What is sin? Wings - ch.4 #108
1.42 So now you have forsaken evil? Wings - ch.4 #124
1.43 What a wonderful creature man is! Wings - ch.3 #024
1.44 Don't be afraid. Wings - ch.5 #165
1.45 To be victorious you have to wage war. Wings - ch.5 #164
1.46 Living in the world but not belonging to the world Wings - ch.4 #090
1.47 Freedom Wings - ch.3 #029
1.48 Are you aware Wings - ch.4 #052
1.49 The time and effort spent in seeking Wings - ch.4 #057
1.50 The only unbridgeable gulf Wings - ch.3 #023
1.51 Get to know the "i" totally Wings - ch.4 #064
1.52 If there is darkness Wings - ch.4 #112
1.53 Not long ago I had a dream Wings - ch.5 #208
1.54 Why is life so purposeless Wings - ch.5 #211
1.55 That which always exists Wings - ch.4 #072
1.56 One moonlit night Who Am I - ch.01
1.57 You cannot become a rose. Wings - ch.5 #183
1.58 who am i? you ask. Wings - ch.4 #073
1.59 A man's life is really counted by his actions Wings - ch.4 #149
1.60 I cannot walk the path to truth for you. Wings - ch.4 #104
1.61 What shall I say about dharma, about religion? Who Am I - ch.02
1.62 Man is a journey Wings - ch.4 #046
1.63 When I look into myself Wings - ch.4 #056
1.64 The physical body is a sacred temple. Wings - ch.4 #126
2 Chapter #2 - Truth and science
2.01 The experience of truth Wings - ch.4 #099
2.02 You ask me for a definition of truth? Wings - ch.3 #033
2.03 Truth is not the opposite of untruth. Wings - ch.4 #055
2.04 As I see it Who Am I - ch.04
2.05 Truth liberates. Wings - ch.5 #202
2.06 I see a lie as a pile of straw. Wings - ch.4 #058
2.07 Belief and non-belief are closely related. Wings - ch.5 #196
2.08 In a small village Towards the Unknown - ch.1
2.09 There is a world of difference Wings - ch.4 #094
2.10 What is truth? Wings - ch.3 #019
2.11 What so-called spiritual men call renunciation Wings - ch.3 #018
2.12 If you do not consider Wings - ch.5 #194
2.13 For the acquisition of perfect knowledge Wings - ch.3 #012
2.14 Someone once asked a venerable sage Wings - ch.5 #201
2.15 I have heard that when Adam and Eve were expelled
from the garden of eden
Who Am I - ch.03
2.16 Truth can only be realized. Wings - ch.4 #087
3 Chapter #3 - Religion and education
3.01 What is the aim of religion? Wings - ch.4 #060
3.02 You ask for proof of the existence of God? Wings - ch.4 #068
3.03 At dawn Wings - ch.4 #127
3.04 If you wish to know God Wings - ch.4 #045
3.05 To which religion do I belong? Wings - ch.3 #001
3.06 Religion is a path. Wings - ch.4 #054
3.07 The greatest respect Wings - ch.4 #059
3.08 A religious life is not an impractical one. Wings - ch.5 #207
3.09 It is very easy to die for religion Wings - ch.5 #192
3.10 Whatever drive there is in a man's life Wings - ch.4 #098
3.11 You have to forsake both good and bad to realize God. Wings - ch.4 #123
3.12 There is one man Wings - ch.5 #198
3.13 What connection do "I" and "mine" have with truth? Wings - ch.3 #002
3.14 Are you so poor that you have no religion? Wings - ch.4 #100
3.15 What is the meaning of religion? Wings - ch.4 #035
3.16 Religion is not a formless concept. Wings - ch.4 #036
3.17 I dreamed the day of judgement had come. Wings - ch.5 #171
3.18 Scriptures and dogmas are like dry leaves. There is no sap in
them. Nor can there ever be. only the tree of the self produces
green leaves and blossoms that are full of life.
Wings - ch.4 #078
3.19 On my search I found no greater scripture than silence. Wings - ch.4 #079
3.20 If the truth is not known Wings - ch.4 #074
3.21 It is completely ridiculous to delve into the scriptures Wings - ch.4 #111
3.22 Words, scriptures, creeds and cults Wings - ch.3 #006
3.23 If you wish to hear the sweet voice of God then turn a deaf ear
to the verbiage of the world.
Wings - ch.4 #118
3.24 Do not keep religion in your mouth. Wings - ch.4 #037
3.25 People worship words and think they are truth Wings - ch.5 #214
3.26 I watch you repeating mantras Wings - ch.4 #102
3.27 Salvation is neither achieved by prayer nor by worship. Wings - ch.4 #081
3.28 If I step into a river Wings - ch.4 #077
3.29 How can you desire nirvana or moksha? Wings - ch.4 #091
3.30 Aren't we all just like floundering, flailing fish Wings - ch.5 #204
3.31 What is religion? Wings - ch.5 #193
3.32 Am I to proclaim God to you? Wings - ch.5 #162
3.33 Look at the Ganges. Wings - ch.5 #203
3.34 I am the poorest of the poor. Wings - ch.4 #130
3.35 What is this search for God? It is the search for one's lost
home. In this world man is but a homeless wanderer,
a stranger in a foreign land.
Wings - ch.3 #032
3.36 When I look into your eyes my heart weeps Who Am I - ch.07
3.37 I am against that kind of education that tries to shape an
individual in a predetermined mold.
Wings - ch.4 #049
3.38 Do not tie yourself to disciplines. Wings - ch.4 #047
3.39 How can I find the words Wings - ch.4 #097
3.40 The aim of education is to bring out what lies hidden in
the individual.
Wings - ch.4 #048
3.41 I would like to tell you Towards the Unknown - ch.2
3.42 I have forgotten what I have learned Wings - ch.4 #086
4 Chapter #4 - Thought and vision
4.01 I know only two types of men Wings - ch.3 #021
4.02 The power of thought is as great as the power of electricity. Wings - ch.3 #022
4.03 Try to think Wings - ch.4 #082
4.04 The door to truth, immortality and eternity Wings - ch.4 #117
4.05 There is no greater power Who Am I - ch.05
4.06 I urge you Wings - ch.4 #039
4.07 Thought cannot travel beyond the known. Wings - ch.3 #003
4.08 In intellectual pursuits Wings - ch.4 #093
4.09 What is it that I speak? Wings - ch.3 #017
4.10 Where are you going? What you are seeking is close at hand.
If you keep on walking to find what is near you will be going
astray. Stop and look. To realize what is so close it is enough
just to stop and look.
Wings - ch.4 #080
4.11 Doesn't the intellect know anything at all? Wings - ch.5 #205
4.12 I am opposed to superstition and to blind belief Wings - ch.3 #010
4.13 I noticed a lute in one house Wings - ch.4 #101
4.14 I do not speak to you of light Who Am I - ch.17
4.15 You want to know the truth Wings - ch.4 #075
4.16 The tiniest speck of dust in one's eye can hide
the biggest mountain
Wings - ch.5 #219
4.17 A man's outward appearance Wings - ch.4 #157
4.18 If you want to know God Wings - ch.5 #220
4.19 What is the real proof that God exists? Wings - ch.5 #223
4.20 The moment you realize Wings - ch.3 #025
4.21 In order to dispel one illusion do not create another. Wings - ch.4 #076
4.22 Truth is like the firmament Wings - ch.4 #088
4.23 I do not live in a different world. Wings - ch.3 #014
4.24 I do not consider thoughtful meditation Wings - ch.5 #215
4.25 You wish to meditate? Wings - ch.4 #084
4.26 You ask what it is that is known in the ecstasy of Wings - ch.4 #089
4.27 Truth is one Wings - ch.5 #224
4.28 You ask me what to do to meditate. Wings - ch.4 #085
4.29 There are two ways to investigate truth. Who Am I - ch.09
4.30 A friend said to me "wouldn't it be wonderful if we could
transform the world?"
Wings - ch.5 #170
4.31 The realization of truth is a difficult process Wings - ch.5 #191
4.32 Every house is full of mirrors. Wings - ch.4 #151
4.33 Man is suffering. Wings - ch.4 #092
4.34 Is this disappointment I see in your eyes? Who Am I - ch.13
4.35 Open your eyes and look around you carefully. Wings - ch.4 #125
4.36 Truth is not something you create. Wings - ch.3 #026
5 Chapter #5 - Life and death
5.01 Wherever I look I see the thrill of life Wings - ch.5 #159
5.02 Even for life's longest journey Wings - ch.3 #031
5.03 Life is here, now, today. Wings - ch.5 #168
5.04 You only live life when you touch your ultimate depths. Wings - ch.4 #034
5.05 I wish everyone would live as if the eyes of the world were
upon him.
Wings - ch.4 #148
5.06 I love beauty -- the beauty that lies deep beneath the body. Wings - ch.4 #150
5.07 The attainment of knowledge Wings - ch.4 #095
5.08 What should I say to you today? Who Am I - ch.10
5.09 Christ said. "Man cannot live by bread alone." Wings - ch.5 #200
5.10 A sadhu used to come to see me and would always tell me he
was thinking about immortality.
Wings - ch.3 #009
5.11 Why is there so much misery in man's life? Wings - ch.5 #174
5.12 Learn how to surrender yourself to truth. Wings - ch.4 #105
5.13 I had a dream in which I saw some of my dead
acquaintances once again.
Wings - ch.5 #186
5.14 Did I hear you say life is miserable? Wings - ch.5 #188
5.15 We were seated beside a mountain stream Wings - ch.3 #016
5.16 Life is frustration because we ourselves have imprisoned it
within the ego.
Wings - ch.5 #206
5.17 Life leads us into deep waters Wings - ch.5 #178
5.18 To create beauty you have to lose yourself in beauty,
you have to become one with beauty.
Wings - ch.5 #221
5.19 What do you live for? Wings - ch.5 #197
5.20 I was staying with some friends and their children
were getting ready to take part in a race.
Wings - ch.5 #166
5.21 Once I stayed in a house that had no windows. Wings - ch.3 #007
5.22 The physical body grows old naturally Wings - ch.4 #134
5.23 Do not seek nirvana as opposed to life. Wings - ch.4 #083
5.24 Life is not a problem Wings - ch.4 #061
5.25 What a wondrous world this is! Wings - ch.4 #132
5.26 What do my eyes tell me? Who Am I - ch.08
5.27 Life is like a flute -- hollow and empty within, but possessing
infinite slumbering possibilities for beautiful music.
The music that pours from the flute depends on how you play it.
Wings - ch.4 #040
5.28 Do not center your life around the future. Wings - ch.5 #187
5.29 A friend died at a very young age. Wings - ch.5 #175
5.30 I die every day. Wings - ch.3 #030
5.31 Have you ever seen good men dying Wings - ch.5 #182
5.32 Haven't you invented God Wings - ch.4 #071
5.33 Light travels in a straight line. Wings - ch.4 #053
5.34 Where does this mad race after wealth, fame, knowledge
or renunciation take a man?
Wings - ch.3 #005
5.35 There was a time when death was stalking me. Wings - ch.4 #121
5.36 It is not up to me how I will die. Wings - ch.5 #184
5.37 Life is only for those who know Wings - ch.4 #120
5.38 If a man does not feel the existence of the self Wings - ch.3 #008
5.39 You ask me what the greatest virtue in life is Wings - ch.5 #181
5.40 Your have to wade through death to conquer death. Wings - ch.4 #110
5.41 I would like to ask you what you are living for. Wings - ch.4 #143
5.42 Man is all caught up in problems. Wings - ch.3 #020
5.43 Man does not know what life is. The Mysteries of Life and Death
i.e. Main Mrityu Sikhata Hun, ch.1 & 2
5.44 How can I speak when the mountains are silent? Wings - ch.5 #163
6 Chapter #6 - Love and happiness
6.01 When I roam the lofty mountains I feel like my soul is raised on
high and covered like the peaks in never melting caps of snow.
Wings - ch.5 #161
6.02 I was in the hills, and what they wanted to tell me was
transmitted through their silence.
Wings - ch.4 #128
6.03 What shall I say to you? Wings - ch.4 #129
6.04 Creation springs from love. It is nourished by love. It moves
towards love and eventually merges with love. And you ask me
why I say love is God! this is why.
Wings - ch.5 #180
6.05 I watch mankind moving from one perversion to another. Who Am I - ch.14
6.06 Do not say that you have been in prayer because that indicates
you can also be out of prayer.
Wings - ch.4 #069
6.07 To live is to live in God. Wings - ch.4 #147
6.08 Every day I watch you going to the temples. Wings - ch.5 #160
6.09 It is utter foolishness to oppose nature. Wings - ch.3 #015
6.10 Does God exist? Wings - ch.5 #222
6.11 A friend of mine was very unhappy. Wings - ch.4 #155
6.12 Don't we eventually get tired of our pleasures? Wings - ch.5 #172
6.13 I remember the days when my mind was in darkness
(and) Begin to meditate
Who Am I - ch.16
6.14 It is unnecessary to go in search of God. Wings - ch.4 #109
6.15 Once I stood by the sea and asked myself Wings - ch.4 #122
6.16 You wish to serve? Wings - ch.4 #044
6.17 I was standing by the bank of a river. Wings - ch.3 #011
6.18 I know that you are in search of bliss Wings - ch.5 #199
6.19 A relative of a friend of mine was ill Wings - ch.5 #185
6.20 Whenever I think of mankind Who Am I - ch.15
6.21 I had a bath in the Ganges and washed the dust from my body. Wings - ch.4 #154
6.22 I saw you worshipping God Wings - ch.5 #189
6.23 If you nurture the poison of hatred within your heart you can
never expect the flowers of bliss to bloom in your life.
Wings - ch.4 #135
6.24 If the task you are engaged in neither thrills you
nor pleases others
Wings - ch.4 #142
6.25 Give. Wings - ch.4 #153
6.26 So you are in search of bliss? Wings - ch.4 #106
6.27 There are friends who hurl insults at me and then go away. Wings - ch.4 #131
6.28 I used to think a great deal about non-violence Who Am I - ch.11
6.29 Love is freedom. Wings - ch.3 #013
6.30 Somewhere Dostojevsky has a character say Wings - ch.5 #212
6.31 I once said somewhere that I was an emperor Wings - ch.4 #144
6.32 Haven't you noticed Wings - ch.4 #138
6.33 A pair of travelers took shelter Wings - ch.4 #141
6.34 What has happened to mankind? Who Am I - ch.12
6.35 Virtue is happiness. Wings - ch.4 #139
6.36 One day a friend and I were walking Wings - ch.5 #167
6.37 The young son of a friend of mine Wings - ch.5 #173
6.38 I once met a happy man Wings - ch.4 #140
6.39 What can I give to you? Wings - ch.4 #146
6.40 The realization of truth, the knowledge of the soul Wings - ch.1 & 2
i.e. the part "Wings of Love"
6.41 Accept life. Wings - ch.4 #156
6.42 Life is a single entity. Wings - ch.4 #113