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:2. [no title] -- Lions Club Poona 4 Dec 66 (p 30) [आकाश का आनंद - is the title of ch.8 of ''[[Dukh Ke Paar (दुख के पार)]]''. Rest titles are the the same as in ''Dukh Ke Paar''.]
:2. [no title] -- Lions Club Poona 4 Dec 66 (p 30) [आकाश का आनंद - is the title of ch.8 of ''[[Dukh Ke Paar (दुख के पार)]]''. Rest titles are the the same as in ''Dukh Ke Paar''.]
:3. तुम भी परमात्मा हो -- Kavasaji Jahangir Hall, Bombay 14 Nov 1965 (p 49)
:3. तुम भी परमात्मा हो -- Kavasaji Jahangir Hall, Bombay 14 Nov 1965 (p 49)
:4. मौन द्वार -- Blavatsky Lodge, Bombay 15 Nov 1965 (p 64)
:4. मौन द्वार -- <u>Blavatsky Lodge</u>, Bombay 15 Nov 1965 (p 64) . . . . . . . . . . . ** re the two underlines,
:5. बूंद में सागर -- Bombay 15 Nov 1965 (p 78)
:5. बूंद में सागर -- <u>Sarla Sarjan, Vile Parle</u>, Bombay 15 Nov 1965 (p 78) . . . . see Historical note below
:6. अजन्मा संगीत -- 21 Mar 40 [sic], Poona (p 88)
:6. अजन्मा संगीत -- 21 Mar 40 [sic], Poona (p 88)
:7. एकाकी भाव -- 22 Mar 1970 Poona (p 98)
:7. एकाकी भाव -- 22 Mar 1970 Poona (p 98)
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Historical note: "Blavatsky Lodge", the venue for talk #4, is a correction in 2019 based on info in [[Talk:Satya Ki Pyas (सत्य की प्यास)]]. In the e-book, it was "Belesti Lodge". That term can hardly be found anywhere, most prominent hit being Sannyas Wiki. So it has been retired in favour of Blavatsy Lodge, a well-known building in Mumbai. And "Sarla Sarjan", a now-defunct high school in Vile Parle, was added based on the same source. -- doofus-9 18:48, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
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Revision as of 18:48, 24 March 2019

Source of all the information for this book is the e-book found at Osho World. The main item of puzzlement, about which these mutterings are written, is the multiplicity of forms of the title, particularly the third word. "यूं" is how it appears in the e-book and "Youn" in the labeling of the e-book. Now, यूं "should" be transliterated as yun, but neither form is recognised by G**gle Translate as a word. When Youn is fed into it, they suggest यौन, and translate that as "sex," which form we have seen in Yuvak Aur Yaun (युवक और यौन), or "Youth and Sex." This does not exhaust the variety of forms of this word that are seen just in connection with this one never-published book. There are in all, youn, yun, yu, यूं, यूँ, यों and यौन. Yawn?

Besides curiosity, the reason for the digging into this is the meaning G**gle gave the title, "Eight O'Clock Sex Swings," which seemed fairly bizarre and unlikely, but i was unable to come up with anything more likely. And would that be am or pm?


A decent amount of date and place info was given, at the end of apparent chapters, with little or no space before the next chapter titles. Page numbers are those in the e-book where the data were found. No actual chapter numbers were included but have been inserted by me.

प्रवचन (TOC):
1. सत्य की झलक -- Poona 1965 (p 15)
2. [no title] -- Lions Club Poona 4 Dec 66 (p 30) [आकाश का आनंद - is the title of ch.8 of Dukh Ke Paar (दुख के पार). Rest titles are the the same as in Dukh Ke Paar.]
3. तुम भी परमात्मा हो -- Kavasaji Jahangir Hall, Bombay 14 Nov 1965 (p 49)
4. मौन द्वार -- Blavatsky Lodge, Bombay 15 Nov 1965 (p 64) . . . . . . . . . . . ** re the two underlines,
5. बूंद में सागर -- Sarla Sarjan, Vile Parle, Bombay 15 Nov 1965 (p 78) . . . . see Historical note below
6. अजन्मा संगीत -- 21 Mar 40 [sic], Poona (p 88)
7. एकाकी भाव -- 22 Mar 1970 Poona (p 98)

About the strange date offered for ch 6, it seems reasonable to understand it as a simple typo, a 7 replaced by a 4, one key away on the numeric keypad. -- doofus-9 (talk) 23:52, 16 December 2014 (PST)


And an update: The dates for ch 6 & 7 are in conflict with dates for another event given by Ageh Bharti cited in Neeten's Osho Source Book (Jabalpur section). -- doofus-9 20:35, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


And a further update, somewhat conflicting new info from an email from Sandeep V: "As per my info Osho's 3-day lecture series at Puna in 1965 delivered at Lions Club International's program is available in the name of book "Aarh Pahar Youn Jhumate" in Hindi."

I have rechecked the info from OW's e-book and it remains the same, with one minor correction in a chapter title. So all this, including the e-book, can be in the fwiw category. -- doofus-9 17:26, 8 December 2018 (UTC)


Historical note: "Blavatsky Lodge", the venue for talk #4, is a correction in 2019 based on info in Talk:Satya Ki Pyas (सत्य की प्यास). In the e-book, it was "Belesti Lodge". That term can hardly be found anywhere, most prominent hit being Sannyas Wiki. So it has been retired in favour of Blavatsy Lodge, a well-known building in Mumbai. And "Sarla Sarjan", a now-defunct high school in Vile Parle, was added based on the same source. -- doofus-9 18:48, 24 March 2019 (UTC)