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It is somewhat inexplicable why ''Dhai Aakhar'' has not been published more recently than whenever. Many of the letters' addressees are well-known in the world of sannyas but many are not. It is a varied collection. One interesting fact that emerges is that Osho wrote three letters to [[Ma Anand Madhu]] and [[Ma Dharm Jyoti]] using those names before he actually "officially" gave them sannyas in Manali in September of 1970. In Madhu's case, one of the letters was as early as Jan 1970, so Osho's movement towards giving sannyas must have been more nuanced than the previous "Big Bang" model presented of a sudden event in Manali. Perhaps lots more is waiting to be discovered in these letters, say by actually reading them. -- updated doofus-9 18:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
It is somewhat inexplicable why ''Dhai Aakhar'' has not been published more recently than whenever. Many of the letters' addressees are well-known in the world of sannyas but many are not. It is a varied collection. One interesting fact that emerges is that Osho wrote three letters to [[Ma Anand Madhu]] and [[Ma Dharm Jyoti]] using those names before he actually "officially" gave them sannyas in Manali in September of 1970. In Madhu's case, one of the letters was as early as Jan 1970, so Osho's movement towards giving sannyas must have been more nuanced than the previous "Big Bang" model presented of a sudden event in Manali. Perhaps lots more is waiting to be discovered in these letters, say by actually reading them. -- updated doofus-9 18:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 
<small>It is worth to add that 1972 cannot be possible: first edition has been published in Sep 1971 with all 150 letters.--DhyanAntar 12:41, 1 January 2020 (UTC)</small>
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Love, Sarlo -- [[User:Sarlo|doofus-9]] ([[User talk:Sarlo|talk]]) 08:13, 27 December 2014 (PST)
Love, Sarlo -- [[User:Sarlo|doofus-9]] ([[User talk:Sarlo|talk]]) 08:13, 27 December 2014 (PST)
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Dates marked by "***" mean that they have been corrected according to first edition Sep 1971.


All dates in the table above checked with phisical book.
Sarloji, #101 letter in e-book has incorrect date that's why it is out of chronological order.
Judging all errors and combined text, e-book on OW is recognized version of the book with many OCR errors and some missing pieces of text (at least in recipients) and some missing letters.--DhyanAntar 12:41, 1 January 2020 (UTC)


===addressees===
===addressees===
(Update: dates rechecked with phisical book, 1971 edition, and updated, now the source of below table is this book. Previous source, e-book from OshoWorld is not exact book as printed and has many errors after when it became digitized.)
:Addressees will be updated soon.
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{| class="wikitable"
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2. 30 Jun 1968 Dulari<br>
2. 30 Jun 1968 Dulari<br>
3. 16 Jul 1968 Dulari<br>
3. 16 Jul 1968 Dulari<br>
4. 16 Dec 1968 Pushpa ([[Ma Dharm Jyoti]] to be)<br>
4. 13 Dec 1968 Pushpa ([[Ma Dharm Jyoti]] to be)<br>
5. 15 Jun 1969 Durga<br>
5. 15 Jun 1969 Durga<br>
6. 29 Jul 1969 Anasuya<br>
6. 29 Jul 1969 Anasuya<br>
7. 17 Oct 1969 [[Jayantibhai]]<br>
7. 17 Oct 1969 [[Jayantibhai]]<br>
8. 4 Jul 1966 Chandan<br>
8. 4 Aug 1966 am [[#dates|**]] Chandan  : e-book has incorrect date "4 Jul 1966 am"<br>
9. 28 Jun 1968 Shobhana<br>
9. 28 Jun 1967 am [[#dates|**]] Shobhana : e-book has incorrect date "28 Jun 1976 am"<br>
10. 1958 - 1962 (est): long, undated to Mounu (pet name for Osho's Jabalpur cousin-caretaker who became [[Ma Yoga Kranti]]). Dates not certain but a long letter to Mounu is cited in [[Sw Anand Neeten|Neeten's]] [http://www.oshosourcebook.com Osho Source Book] (Appendix section), translated by [[Sw Satya Vedant|Vedant]].
10. 1958 - 1962 (est): long, undated to Mounu (pet name for Osho's Jabalpur cousin-caretaker who became [[Ma Yoga Kranti]]). Dates not certain but a long letter to Mounu is cited in [[Sw Anand Neeten|Neeten's]] [http://www.oshosourcebook.com Osho Source Book] (Appendix section), translated by [[Sw Satya Vedant|Vedant]].
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11. 29 Sep 1966 Jayantibhai<br>
11. 21 Jan 1966 Jayantibhai<br>
12. 27 Jan 1966 Jayantibhai<br>
12. 27 Jan 1966 Jayantibhai<br>
13. 1 Nov 1966 Patralala Gangawala <br>
13. 1 Nov 1966 Patralala Gangawala <br>
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16. 6 Mar 1968 Shobhana<br>
16. 6 Mar 1968 Shobhana<br>
17. 5 Apr 1968 Nirmala<br>
17. 5 Apr 1968 Nirmala<br>
18. 15 May 1968 Chandan<br>
18. 14 Apr 1968 Chandan<br>
19. 19 Jul 1968 Pushpa<br>
19. 19 Jul 1968 Pushpa<br>
20. 17 Aug 1968 Shobhana
20. 17 Aug 1968 Shobhana
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26. 24 Jan 1969 Vasumati<br>
26. 24 Jan 1969 Vasumati<br>
27. 15 Mar 1969 Darshan<br>
27. 15 Mar 1969 Darshan<br>
28. 29 Nov 1969 Darshan<br>
28. 21 Nov 1969 Darshan<br>
29. 2 Dec 1969 Dharmishtha ([[Ma Anand Madhu]] to be) <br>
29. 2 Dec 1969 Dharmishtha ([[Ma Anand Madhu]] to be) <br>
30. 10 Dec 1969 Nadubhai<br>
30. 10 Dec 1969 Nadubhai<br>
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36. 25 Oct 1970 [[Sw Krishna Chaitanya]]<br>
36. 25 Oct 1970 [[Sw Krishna Chaitanya]]<br>
37. 25 Oct 1970 [[Ma Yoga Prem (Indian)|Ma Yoga Prem]] (Ajol)<br>
37. 25 Oct 1970 [[Ma Yoga Prem (Indian)|Ma Yoga Prem]] (Ajol)<br>
38. 26 Oct 1970 Kashinarayana (M, Pune) ‡ previously there were two number 38's. Other removed as erroneous per info from Shailendra <br>
38. 26 Oct 1970 Kashinarayana (M, Pune) ‡ previously there were two number 38's. Other removed as erroneous per info from Shailendra. Phisical book, first edition, confirmes that this is letter 38. <br>
39. 11 Nov 1970 Nirbhaya (M, Kolkata) <br>
39. 11 Nov 1970 Nirbhaya (M, Kolkata) <br>
40. 11 Nov 1970 [[Ma Dharm Jyoti]] <br>
40. 11 Nov 1970 [[Ma Dharm Jyoti]] <br>
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| 51. 11 Jan 1971 [[Ma Yoga Bhagawati]] ‡ month = 11, probably a typo extra 1, assuming Jan <br>
| 51. 11 Jan 1971 [[Ma Yoga Bhagawati]] ‡ month = 11, probably a typo extra 1, assuming Jan <br>
52. 11 Jan 1971 Jarnalal (M, Nimach)<br>
52. 11 Jan 1971 Jarnalal (M, Nimach)<br>
53. 11 Jan 1972 [[#dates|**]] Sw Krishna Chaitanya<br>
53. 11 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Sw Krishna Chaitanya<br>
54. 11 Jan 1971 [[Ma Yoga Veena]]<br>
54. 11 Jan 1971 [[Ma Yoga Veena]]<br>
55. 12 Jan 1972 [[#dates|**]] YS Dharmadhikari (M, Jabalpur) <br>
55. 12 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] YS Dharmadhikari (M, Jabalpur)<br>
56. 12 Jan 1971 [[Sw Yoga Murti]]<br>
56. 13 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Yoga Murti]]<br>
57. 13 Jan 1971 Guna (F, Mumbai)<br>
57. 13 Jan 1971 Guna (F, Mumbai)<br>
58. 13 Jan 1971 Vandana (F, Pune)<br>
58. 13 Jan 1971 Vandana (F, Pune)<br>
59. 13 Jan 1971 Shirish (M, Mumbai)<br>
59. 13 Jan 1971 Shirish (M, Mumbai)<br>
60. 14 Jan 1972 [[#dates|**]] Sw Krishna Chaitanya <br>
60. 14 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Sw Krishna Chaitanya<br>
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| 61. 14 Jan 1972 [[#dates|**]]  [[Sw Chaitanya Veetaraga|Kamlesh]] (M, Raipur) <br>
| 61. 14 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]]  [[Sw Chaitanya Veetaraga|Kamlesh]] (M, Raipur)<br>
62. 14 Jan 1971 Janakaraya (M, Jamnagar) <br>
62. 14 Jan 1971 Janakaraya (M, Jamnagar) <br>
63. 14 Jan 1972 [[#dates|**]] Sw Yoga Murti <br>
63. 14 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Sw Yoga Murti<br>
64. 14 Jan 1972 Sw Yoga Murti ‡ seems to be a different letter <br>
64. 14 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Sw Yoga Murti ‡ seems to be a different letter<br>
65. 15 Jan 1972 Janakaraya (M, Jamnagar) <br>
65. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Janakaraya (M, Jamnagar)<br>
66. 15 Jan 1972 [[Sw Yoga Chinmaya]] <br>
66. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Yoga Chinmaya]] : e-book has incorrect date "15 Jan 1072" [sic]<br>
67. 15 Jan 1972 Sw Yoga Chinmaya ‡ seems to be a different letter <br>
67. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Sw Yoga Chinmaya ‡ seems to be a different letter<br>
68. 15 Jan 1972 Sw Krishna Chaitanya <br>
68. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Sw Krishna Chaitanya<br>
69. 15 Jan 1972 [[Ma Yoga Nivedipa]] <br>
69. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Ma Yoga Nivedipa]]<br>
[70.] 15 Jan 1972 Sw Krishna Chaitanya ‡ seems to be a different letter <br>
[70.] 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Sw Krishna Chaitanya ‡ seems to be a different letter<br>
| 71. 15 Jan 1972 [[#dates|**]] Ma Anand Madhu <br>
| 71. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Ma Anand Madhu<br>
72. 16 Jan 1972 Omprakash (M, Jalandhar) <br>
72. 16 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Omprakash (M, Jalandhar<br>
73. 16 Jan 1972 Hiralalji (M, Udaipur) <br>
73. 16 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Hiralalji (M, Udaipur)<br>
74. 16 Jan 1972 Meera <br>
74. 16 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Meera<br>
75. 16 Jan 1972 Tripta (F, Jalandhar) <br>
75. 16 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Tripta (F, Jalandhar)<br>
76. 16 Jan 1972 Sw Akshay Bharti <br>
76. 16 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Sw Akshay Bharti<br>
77. 16 Jan 1972 Janakaraya (M, Jamnagar) <br>
77. 16 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Janakaraya (M, Jamnagar)<br>
78, 16 Jan 1972 Vidhacharana (M, Mumbai) <br>
78, 16 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Vidhacharana (M, Mumbai)<br>
79. 16 Jan 1972 Mathura (M, Patna) <br>
79. 16 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Mathura (M, Patna)<br>
80. 16 Jan 1972 Kanhaiya (M, Jalana) <br>
80. 16 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Kanhaiya (M, Jalana)<br>
| ‡ previously, 81-90 were missing, now added per info from Shailendra (no dates yet)<br>
| ‡ previously, 81-90 were missing, now added per info from Shailendra; sources of dates - 1971 edition.<br>
81. Hemant (M, Junagarh GJ) <br>
81. 16 Jan 1971 Hemant (M, Junagarh GJ) <br>
82. [[Ma Kusum Bharti|Kusum]] (F, Ludhiana) <br>
82. 16 Jan 1971 [[Ma Kusum Bharti|Kusum]] (F, Ludhiana) <br>
83. [[Lala Sundarlal Jain|Sundarlal]] (M, Delhi) <br>
83. 16 Jan 1971 [[Lala Sundarlal Jain|Sundarlal]] (M, Delhi) <br>
84. Jayantkumar (M, Patna) <br>
84. 16 Jan 1971 Jayantkumar (M, Patna) <br>
85. Ranjana (F, Patna) and Jayantkumar (M, Patna) <br>
85. 16 Jan 1971 Ranjana (F, Patna) and Jayantkumar (M, Patna) <br>
86. Kiran (M, Pune) <br>
86. 20 Jan 1971 Kiran (M, Pune) <br>
87. Gopal (M, Beawar RJ) ‡ Beawar not actually mentioned, but Rajasthan was, so went with resemblance to #91 <br>
87. 20 Jan 1971 Gopal (M, Beawar RJ) ‡ Beawar not actually mentioned, but Rajasthan was, so went with resemblance to #91 and 1971 edition <br>
88. Manju (F, Ghatkopar) <br>
88. 20 Jan 1971 Manju (F, Ghatkopar) <br>
88. Shireesh (M, Mumbai) <br>
88. 21 Jan 1971 Shireesh (M, Mumbai) <br>
90. Chinu (M, Ahmedabad) <br>
90. 21 Jan 1971 Chinu (M, Ahmedabad) <br>
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|--valign="top"
| 91. 22 Jan 1972 [[#dates|**]] Gopal (M, Beawar RJ) <br>
| 91. 22 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Gopal (M, Beawar RJ)<br>
92. 22 Jan 1972 Sw Krishna Chaitanya <br>
92. 22 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Sw Krishna Chaitanya<br>
93. 22 Jan 1972 Savitri (F, Balasar) <br>
93. 22 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Savitri (F, Balasar)<br>
94. 22 Jan 1972 Shireesh (M, Mumbai) <br>
94. 22 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Shireesh (M, Mumbai)<br>
95. 22 Jan 1972 Krishnadatta (M, Mumbai) <br>
95. 22 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Krishnadatta (M, Mumbai)<br>
96. 22 Jan 1971 Bakul (F, Mumbai) <br>
96. 22 Jan 1971 Bakul (F, Mumbai) <br>
97. 22 Jan 1971 Shiv (M, Jabalpur, [[Sw Ageh Bharti]] to be?) <br>
97. 22 Jan 1971 Shiv (M, Jabalpur, [[Sw Ageh Bharti]] to be?) <br>
98. 23 Jan 1972 [[#dates|**]] a sadhak, Pune <br>
98. 23 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] a sadhak, Pune<br>
99. 23 Jan 1972 Chinu (M, Ahmedabad) name presented as both Chinu and Chuni. Went with Chinu because #115 and #90 are Chinu from Ahmedabad <br>
99. 23 Jan 1971 Chinu (M, Ahmedabad) : in e-book name presented also as Chuni, it's obvious OCR error <br>
100. 23 Jan 1971 [[Ma Dharm Samadhi]] <br>
100. 23 Jan 1971 [[Ma Dharm Samadhi]] <br>
| 101. 12 Jan 1972 [[#dates|**]] Shiv (M, Jabalpur) <br>
| 101. 23 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Shiv (M, Jabalpur) : e-book has incorrect date "12 Jan 1972" <br>
102. 23 Jan 1971 Ma Yoga Samadhi ‡ seems to be a different letter, and may well be a different Samadhi: this one is from Rajkot, #100 (Dharm) is from Mumbai <br>
102. 23 Jan 1971 Ma Yoga Samadhi ‡ seems to be a different letter, and may well be a different Samadhi: this one is from Rajkot, #100 (Dharm) is from Mumbai <br>
[103.] 23 Jan 1971 Vimala (F, Nimach) <br>
[103.] 23 Jan 1971 Vimala (F, Nimach) <br>
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106. 23 Jan 1971 Trilochan (M, Satna) <br>
106. 23 Jan 1971 Trilochan (M, Satna) <br>
107. 23 Jan 1971  Narayana (M, Jabalpur) <br>
107. 23 Jan 1971  Narayana (M, Jabalpur) <br>
108. 23 Jan 1971 Madhu (F, Ghatkopar) ‡ not identified as Ma Anand Madhu but Madhu Shah. OTOH, MAM's first letter (#29) is to Dharmashta Shah of Ajol <br>
108. 23 Jan 1971 Manju (F, Bombai) <br>
[109.] 23 Jan 1971 Savitri (F, Balasar) ‡ date rendered in digits as 23-171971, first 7 assumed to be typo for - <br>
[109.] 23 Jan 1971 Savitri (F, Balasar) ‡ date rendered in digits as 23-171971, first 7 assumed to be typo for - <br>
110. 24 Jan 1971 Dataram (M, Mumbai) <br>
110. 24 Jan 1971 Dataram (M, Mumbai) <br>
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|--valign="top"
| 121. 25 Jan 1971 Prabodha (M, Mumbai) <br>
| 121. 25 Jan 1971 Prabodha (M, Mumbai) <br>
122. 25 Jan 1971 Arun (M, Mumbai) date rendered in digits as 25-171971, first 7 assumed to be typo for - <br>
122. 25 Jan 1971 Arun (M, Mumbai) : in e-book date stated as 25-171971, first 7 is to be typo for - <br>
123. 25 Jan 1971 PF Shah (M, England) <br>
123. 25 Jan 1971 PF Shah (M, England) <br>
[124.] 25 Jan 1971 Madhav (M, Jabalpur) <br>
[124.] 25 Jan 1971 Madhav (M, Jabalpur) <br>
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130. 26 Jan 1971 Madhav (M, Jabalpur) <br>
130. 26 Jan 1971 Madhav (M, Jabalpur) <br>
| 131. 26 Jan 1971 Kantilal (M, Dhanbad) <br>
| 131. 26 Jan 1971 Kantilal (M, Dhanbad) <br>
132. 26 Jan 1972 [[#dates|**]] Sw Anand Murti <br>
132. 26 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Sw Anand Murti <br>
133. 26 Jan 1971 Bahadursinha (M, Indore) date rendered in digits as 25-171971, first 7 assumed to be typo for - <br>
133. 26 Jan 1971 Bahadursinha (M, Indore) : in e-book date stated as 25-171971, first 7 is to be typo for - <br>
134. 26 Jan 1971 Madanalal (M, Amritsar) <br>
134. 25 Jan 1971 Madanalal (M, Amritsar) <br>
135. 26 Jan 1971 Kedar (M, Nimach) <br>
135. 26 Jan 1971 Kedar (M, Nimach) <br>
136. 27 Jan 1971 Ma Yoga Samadhi <br>
136. 27 Jan 1971 Ma Yoga Samadhi <br>
137. 27 Jan 1971 Govardhanalal (M, Bangalore) <br>
137. 27 Jan 1971 Govardhanalal (M, Bangalore) <br>
138. 27 Jan 1971 Mishrilal (M, Dhamtari) <br>
138. 27 Jan 1971 Mishrilal (M, Dhamtari) <br>
139. 29 Jan 1971 Pahma (F, Pune) <br>
139. 27 Jan 1971 Pahma (F, Pune) : e-book proposes date 29 Jan 1971 <br>
140. 29 Jan 1971 Kedar (M, Nimach) ‡ date was entered as 21, assuming a typo meant to be 29 <br>
140. 21 Jan 1971 Kedar (M, Nimach) <br>
| 141. 7 Mar 1971 Bharat (M, Ahmednagar) <br>
| 141. 7 Mar 1971 Bharat (M, Ahmednagar) <br>
142. 26 Feb 1971 Vasanti (F, Kheda?) <br>
142. 26 Feb 1971 Vasanti (F, Kheda?) <br>
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146. 17 Feb 1971 Rama (M, Ahmedabad) <br>
146. 17 Feb 1971 Rama (M, Ahmedabad) <br>
147. 11 Feb 1971 Urmila (F, Gorakhpur)  <br>
147. 11 Feb 1971 Urmila (F, Gorakhpur)  <br>
148. 16 Feb 1971 Vinay (M, Patan) <br>
148. 15 Feb 1971 Vinay (M, Patan) <br>
149. 6 Mar 1971 Vimala (F, Nimach) <br>
149. 6 Mar 1971 Vimala (F, Nimach) <br>
150. 30 Dec 1970 Dalajit (M, Jalandhar) <br>
150. 30 Dec 1970 Dalajit (M, Jalandhar) <br>

Revision as of 12:41, 1 January 2020

title

There seem to be a number of variations on the words of the title, both in the Devanagari and transliterations, not so much in connection with this book but with Kabir's doha. We have Dhai and Dhaai, Aakhar, Akhar and Akshar, and Ka and Ke. Whether one search term will find another is quirky, so try a few to find everything.

The "two and a half" refers to the number of characters in the word Prem in Devanagari, an entirely different sense of "letters" than you might expect in the title of a book of letters, but there you go. It is not known whether this ambiguity in meaning exists in Hindi or if the play on words depends on English meanings.

Kabir's doha, or one rendition of it, goes like this:

Pothi Padh Padh Kar Jag Mua, Pandit Bhayo Na Koye,
Dhai Aakhar Prem Ke, Jo Padhe so Pandit Hoye
Reading books everyone died, none became any wise,
One who reads the word of Love, only becomes wise

Aside from the title stuff, all the information for this page can be found in the e-book at Osho World and other sites which have copied it. There are quite a few anomalies in it which may even amount to errors. Consideration of its anomalies here will be concerned with dates, numbers and names, not the text.

numbers

First, numbers: The book purports to have 150 letters, or perhaps it would be better to say it aims at that, as that's how many Prem Ke Phool (प्रेम के फूल) has. At any rate, the last one is numbered 150, but there are two places where the counting goes off the rails: There are two number 38s and nothing from 81 to 90. Thus, at this point, the actual count is 141.

UPDATE: Now with Shailendra's e-book info (TOC below), there are clearly 150, and the others were/are just missing from OW's e-book. -- doofus-9 19:08, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

dates

And dates: There is a basic chronological progression in the e-book, with four exceptions. The first eleven are fairly jumbled chronologically but all from the late 60s (with one of them completely unknown). Similarly, the last nine are jumbled but all of their own same vintage, late 1970 to Mar 1971. In between, they observe chrono order perfectly (Jan 1966 to Mar 1971) with two exceptions: one (#101), a simple and solitary case of out-of-orderness, the other a more complicated class of exceptions: When we get to Jan 1971, there are 31 instances of the year suddenly changing to 1972 and back and forth (out of 84 letters total in those twenty days which would be in almost-perfect order except for the year). The otherwise tight order suggests 1972 is just wrong, and should be 1971 everywhere. There are within January's prodigious output some date typos as well which are relatively easy to discern. See below for a table of dates and recipients, with some notes on details.

It is somewhat inexplicable why Dhai Aakhar has not been published more recently than whenever. Many of the letters' addressees are well-known in the world of sannyas but many are not. It is a varied collection. One interesting fact that emerges is that Osho wrote three letters to Ma Anand Madhu and Ma Dharm Jyoti using those names before he actually "officially" gave them sannyas in Manali in September of 1970. In Madhu's case, one of the letters was as early as Jan 1970, so Osho's movement towards giving sannyas must have been more nuanced than the previous "Big Bang" model presented of a sudden event in Manali. Perhaps lots more is waiting to be discovered in these letters, say by actually reading them. -- updated doofus-9 18:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC) It is worth to add that 1972 cannot be possible: first edition has been published in Sep 1971 with all 150 letters.--DhyanAntar 12:41, 1 January 2020 (UTC)


beloved Sarlo,

marry christmas to you!

I'm an avid reader of your TALK pages and i'm amazed day after day how you (seem) to keep on top of this dog's breakfast of Hindi discourses.

looking forward to another year of total insanity and it's ultimate cure : Sarlo

love -Rudra --Rudra (talk) 06:53, 26 December 2014 (PST)


Namaste!

As the sign in the outhouse says, "We aim to please, you aim too, please."

Yes, let's have another fine year of insanity in Rudra's House of Mirrors. Blessings to all who read and write here.

Love, Sarlo -- doofus-9 (talk) 08:13, 27 December 2014 (PST)


Dates marked by "***" mean that they have been corrected according to first edition Sep 1971.

All dates in the table above checked with phisical book.

Sarloji, #101 letter in e-book has incorrect date that's why it is out of chronological order.

Judging all errors and combined text, e-book on OW is recognized version of the book with many OCR errors and some missing pieces of text (at least in recipients) and some missing letters.--DhyanAntar 12:41, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

addressees

(Update: dates rechecked with phisical book, 1971 edition, and updated, now the source of below table is this book. Previous source, e-book from OshoWorld is not exact book as printed and has many errors after when it became digitized.)

Addressees will be updated soon.

1. 18 Jul 1968 Shobhana (Ma Yoga Shobhana to be)
2. 30 Jun 1968 Dulari
3. 16 Jul 1968 Dulari
4. 13 Dec 1968 Pushpa (Ma Dharm Jyoti to be)
5. 15 Jun 1969 Durga
6. 29 Jul 1969 Anasuya
7. 17 Oct 1969 Jayantibhai
8. 4 Aug 1966 am ** Chandan  : e-book has incorrect date "4 Jul 1966 am"
9. 28 Jun 1967 am ** Shobhana : e-book has incorrect date "28 Jun 1976 am"
10. 1958 - 1962 (est): long, undated to Mounu (pet name for Osho's Jabalpur cousin-caretaker who became Ma Yoga Kranti). Dates not certain but a long letter to Mounu is cited in Neeten's Osho Source Book (Appendix section), translated by Vedant.

11. 21 Jan 1966 Jayantibhai
12. 27 Jan 1966 Jayantibhai
13. 1 Nov 1966 Patralala Gangawala
14. 2 Nov 1966 Vasumati
15. 5 Feb 1968 Chandan
16. 6 Mar 1968 Shobhana
17. 5 Apr 1968 Nirmala
18. 14 Apr 1968 Chandan
19. 19 Jul 1968 Pushpa
20. 17 Aug 1968 Shobhana

21. 10 Sep 1968 Shobhana
22. 13 Nov 1968 Laharchand
23. 31 Nov [sic] 1968 Chandan (will assume Nov 30)
24. 12 Dec 1968 Kamala
25. 23 Dec 1968 Pushpa
26. 24 Jan 1969 Vasumati
27. 15 Mar 1969 Darshan
28. 21 Nov 1969 Darshan
29. 2 Dec 1969 Dharmishtha (Ma Anand Madhu to be)
30. 10 Dec 1969 Nadubhai

[31.] 12 Jan 1970 Madhu **

32. 5 Feb 1970 Madhu **
33. 7 Sep 1970 Ma Dharm Jyoti **
34. 17 Sep 1970 "Mounu Kranti"
35. 17 Oct 1970 Ma Dharm Jyoti
36. 25 Oct 1970 Sw Krishna Chaitanya
37. 25 Oct 1970 Ma Yoga Prem (Ajol)
38. 26 Oct 1970 Kashinarayana (M, Pune) ‡ previously there were two number 38's. Other removed as erroneous per info from Shailendra. Phisical book, first edition, confirmes that this is letter 38.
39. 11 Nov 1970 Nirbhaya (M, Kolkata)
40. 11 Nov 1970 Ma Dharm Jyoti

41. 12 Nov 1970 Mathura (M, Patna)

42. 14 Nov 1970 Dinesh (M, Bhilai)
43. 19 Nov 1970 Ma Dharm Jyoti
44. 13 Dec 1970 Tara (F, Mumbai)
45. 13 Dec 1970 Savitri (F, Balasar)
46. 13 Dec 1970 PD Ingale (M, Sangamner)
47. 9 Jan 1971 LR Pandita (M, Khandwa)
48. 9 Jan 1971 Ma Yoga Maya
49. 10 Jan 1971 Ma Yoga Yasha
50. 11 Jan 1971 Jayamala (F, Pune)

51. 11 Jan 1971 Ma Yoga Bhagawati ‡ month = 11, probably a typo extra 1, assuming Jan

52. 11 Jan 1971 Jarnalal (M, Nimach)
53. 11 Jan 1971 ** Sw Krishna Chaitanya
54. 11 Jan 1971 Ma Yoga Veena
55. 12 Jan 1971 ** YS Dharmadhikari (M, Jabalpur)
56. 13 Jan 1971 ** Sw Yoga Murti
57. 13 Jan 1971 Guna (F, Mumbai)
58. 13 Jan 1971 Vandana (F, Pune)
59. 13 Jan 1971 Shirish (M, Mumbai)
60. 14 Jan 1971 ** Sw Krishna Chaitanya

61. 14 Jan 1971 ** Kamlesh (M, Raipur)

62. 14 Jan 1971 Janakaraya (M, Jamnagar)
63. 14 Jan 1971 ** Sw Yoga Murti
64. 14 Jan 1971 ** Sw Yoga Murti ‡ seems to be a different letter
65. 15 Jan 1971 ** Janakaraya (M, Jamnagar)
66. 15 Jan 1971 ** Sw Yoga Chinmaya : e-book has incorrect date "15 Jan 1072" [sic]
67. 15 Jan 1971 ** Sw Yoga Chinmaya ‡ seems to be a different letter
68. 15 Jan 1971 ** Sw Krishna Chaitanya
69. 15 Jan 1971 ** Ma Yoga Nivedipa
[70.] 15 Jan 1971 ** Sw Krishna Chaitanya ‡ seems to be a different letter

71. 15 Jan 1971 ** Ma Anand Madhu

72. 16 Jan 1971 ** Omprakash (M, Jalandhar
73. 16 Jan 1971 ** Hiralalji (M, Udaipur)
74. 16 Jan 1971 ** Meera
75. 16 Jan 1971 ** Tripta (F, Jalandhar)
76. 16 Jan 1971 ** Sw Akshay Bharti
77. 16 Jan 1971 ** Janakaraya (M, Jamnagar)
78, 16 Jan 1971 ** Vidhacharana (M, Mumbai)
79. 16 Jan 1971 ** Mathura (M, Patna)
80. 16 Jan 1971 ** Kanhaiya (M, Jalana)

‡ previously, 81-90 were missing, now added per info from Shailendra; sources of dates - 1971 edition.

81. 16 Jan 1971 Hemant (M, Junagarh GJ)
82. 16 Jan 1971 Kusum (F, Ludhiana)
83. 16 Jan 1971 Sundarlal (M, Delhi)
84. 16 Jan 1971 Jayantkumar (M, Patna)
85. 16 Jan 1971 Ranjana (F, Patna) and Jayantkumar (M, Patna)
86. 20 Jan 1971 Kiran (M, Pune)
87. 20 Jan 1971 Gopal (M, Beawar RJ) ‡ Beawar not actually mentioned, but Rajasthan was, so went with resemblance to #91 and 1971 edition
88. 20 Jan 1971 Manju (F, Ghatkopar)
88. 21 Jan 1971 Shireesh (M, Mumbai)
90. 21 Jan 1971 Chinu (M, Ahmedabad)

91. 22 Jan 1971 ** Gopal (M, Beawar RJ)

92. 22 Jan 1971 ** Sw Krishna Chaitanya
93. 22 Jan 1971 ** Savitri (F, Balasar)
94. 22 Jan 1971 ** Shireesh (M, Mumbai)
95. 22 Jan 1971 ** Krishnadatta (M, Mumbai)
96. 22 Jan 1971 Bakul (F, Mumbai)
97. 22 Jan 1971 Shiv (M, Jabalpur, Sw Ageh Bharti to be?)
98. 23 Jan 1971 ** a sadhak, Pune
99. 23 Jan 1971 Chinu (M, Ahmedabad) : in e-book name presented also as Chuni, it's obvious OCR error
100. 23 Jan 1971 Ma Dharm Samadhi

101. 23 Jan 1971 ** Shiv (M, Jabalpur) : e-book has incorrect date "12 Jan 1972"

102. 23 Jan 1971 Ma Yoga Samadhi ‡ seems to be a different letter, and may well be a different Samadhi: this one is from Rajkot, #100 (Dharm) is from Mumbai
[103.] 23 Jan 1971 Vimala (F, Nimach)
104. 23 Jan 1971 Aruna (F, Amritsar)
105. 23 Jan 1971 Bakul (F, Mumbai)
106. 23 Jan 1971 Trilochan (M, Satna)
107. 23 Jan 1971 Narayana (M, Jabalpur)
108. 23 Jan 1971 Manju (F, Bombai)
[109.] 23 Jan 1971 Savitri (F, Balasar) ‡ date rendered in digits as 23-171971, first 7 assumed to be typo for -
110. 24 Jan 1971 Dataram (M, Mumbai)

111. 24 Jan 1971 Jayshri (F, Dwarka)

112. 24 Jan 1971 Pushkar (M, Dwarka)
113. 24 Jan 1971 Jayanti (F, Mumbai) ‡ date rendered in digits as 24-171971, first 7 assumed to be typo for -
114. 24 Jan 1971 BL Naga (M, Jabalpur) ‡ date rendered as 24 1971, Jan assumed
115. 24 Jan 1971 Chinu (M, Ahmedabad)
116. 24 Jan 1971 Savitri (F, Balasar)
117. 24 Jan 1971 Kedar (M, Nimach)
118. 24 Jan 1971 Satish (M, unknown loc, France?)
119. 25 Jan 1971 Sevantilal (M, Ahmedabad)
120. 25 Jan 1971 Indrajit (M, Bikaner)

121. 25 Jan 1971 Prabodha (M, Mumbai)

122. 25 Jan 1971 Arun (M, Mumbai) : in e-book date stated as 25-171971, first 7 is to be typo for -
123. 25 Jan 1971 PF Shah (M, England)
[124.] 25 Jan 1971 Madhav (M, Jabalpur)
125. 25 Jan 1971 Manju (F, Mumbai)
126. 25 Jan 1971 Samdarshi (M, Mareth)
127. 25 Jan 1971 Kedar (M, Nimach)
128. 25 Jan 1971 Shyam (M, Akola)
129. 26 Jan 1971 Ramesh (M, Indore)
130. 26 Jan 1971 Madhav (M, Jabalpur)

131. 26 Jan 1971 Kantilal (M, Dhanbad)

132. 26 Jan 1971 ** Sw Anand Murti
133. 26 Jan 1971 Bahadursinha (M, Indore) : in e-book date stated as 25-171971, first 7 is to be typo for -
134. 25 Jan 1971 Madanalal (M, Amritsar)
135. 26 Jan 1971 Kedar (M, Nimach)
136. 27 Jan 1971 Ma Yoga Samadhi
137. 27 Jan 1971 Govardhanalal (M, Bangalore)
138. 27 Jan 1971 Mishrilal (M, Dhamtari)
139. 27 Jan 1971 Pahma (F, Pune) : e-book proposes date 29 Jan 1971
140. 21 Jan 1971 Kedar (M, Nimach)

141. 7 Mar 1971 Bharat (M, Ahmednagar)

142. 26 Feb 1971 Vasanti (F, Kheda?)
143. 10 Mar 1971 Urmila (F, Gorakhpur) (Ma Anand Urmila?)
144. 29 Jan 1971 Vinukumar (M, Patan)
145. 12 Mar 1971 Urmila (F, Gorakhpur)
146. 17 Feb 1971 Rama (M, Ahmedabad)
147. 11 Feb 1971 Urmila (F, Gorakhpur)
148. 15 Feb 1971 Vinay (M, Patan)
149. 6 Mar 1971 Vimala (F, Nimach)
150. 30 Dec 1970 Dalajit (M, Jalandhar)

TOC

Contents are from Shailendra's e-book:

अनुक्रम

1 / प्रेम मुक्ति है
2 / प्रेम में पूर्णतया खो जाना ही प्रभु को पा लेना है
3 / प्रेम शब्दों में कहा भी कहां जाता है!
4 / प्रेम को प्रार्थना बना
5 / प्रेम, प्रार्थना और परमात्मा
6 / मेरा प्रेम ही तो मेरा उत्तर है
7 / हृदय की भाषा है--प्रेम
8 / प्रेम में अहंकार और वासना का विसर्जन
9 / आनंद--प्रेम की पीड़ा का
10 / वृहत्तर मनुष्यता के लिए जीने की विधि और प्रयोग
11 / मात्र जीए जाता हूं
12 / सत्य स्वयं ही अपने सैनिक चुन लेता है
13 / परिस्थिति नहीं--मनःस्थिति का परिवर्तन करें
14 / चाहिए संकल्प--श्रम, धैर्य और प्रतीक्षा
15 / अब तो सबकी व्यथा ही मेरी व्यथा बन गयी है
16 / जीवन एक न सुलझने वाली--सुलझी हुई पहेली
17 / तेरे ही हाथों मग तेरा भाग्य है
18 / व्यक्तित्व की सुवास
19 / आमूल जीवन-क्रांति को मैं संन्यस्त कहता हूं
20 / अनंत और स्वयं के बीच बाधा--मैं की मूर्च्छा
21 / शरीर और इंद्रियों से परे--हृदय के स्वर
22 / मैं--मेरे नहीं--सत्य के मित्र चाहता हूं
23 / प्यास ही प्रार्थना है
24 / मैं तो मिट ही गया हूं
25 / स्त्रियों में विद्रोही आत्मा के जागरण की आवश्यकता
26 / अनित्य पर ही ध्यान रखना है
27 / परिचय--विगत जन्मों का
28 / सार्थक संवाद--निःशब्द में ही
29 / स्वीकार भाव
30 / जड़-मूल से सब बदल डालना है
31 / मन--एक असहजता
32 / जीवन है अनंत रहस्य
33 / भोग और दमन के बीच में द्वार है: जागरण का
34 / सत्य को जानने और पचाने की भी पात्रता चाहिए
35 / चुप हो--और जान
36 / असंभव की चुनौती में ही परमात्मा का जन्म है
37 / साधना के पथ पर शत्रु भी मित्र हैं
38 / अज्ञानी होने की तैयारी में वास्तविक ज्ञान का जन्म
39 / बाल-बुद्धि से ऊपर उठना ही होगा
40 / स्वयं का बचाव नहीं: बदलाहट करनी है
41 / स्वयं को स्वीकारें
42 / चलो तो मार्ग बनता है।
43 / ईश्वर की पुकार से भर गए प्राणों में: संन्यास का अवतरण
44 / स्वयं को खोने की तैयारी
45 / विचारों से गुजर कर विचार का अतिक्रमण
46 / संकल्प की पूर्णता में या संकल्प की शून्यता में--समर्पण घटित
47 / ध्यान है अमृत--ध्यान है जीवन
48 / संन्यास की आत्मा: स्वतंत्रता में
49 / विवादों का सर्वश्रेष्ठ: प्रत्युत्तर: मौन
50 / जीवन: एक खेल, एक अभिनय

51 / आत्मीय निकटता का रहस्य-सूत्र
52 / एक ही सत्य के अनंत हैं प्रतिफलन
53 / मैं-मेरे के भ्रम का बोध
54 / मैं है जहां, वहां विनम्रता कहां?
55 / जीवन एक बेबूझ पहेली
56 / भागो मत--रुको और जागो
57 / जीवन-रहस्य
58 / ... और तब संसार ही निर्वाण है
59 / समर्पण ही साधना है
60 / मौन संप्रेषण
61 / आयाम-शून्य आयाम
62 / देखो-सोचो मत-देखो
63 / साधो सहज समाधि भली
64 / श्रद्धा लाओ अपने पर
65 / स्वतंत्रता--मैं की नहीं, मैं से
66 / शास्त्रों से सावधान
67 / सत्य: भ्रम का अभाव है
68 / अटकना--अहंकार की पूंछ का
69 / मिला ही हुआ है वह
70 / तुम्हारा क्या ख्याल है?
71 / योग: कर्म में कुशलता है
72 / प्यासों को ही कुआं तक आना होगा
73 / अब गहन कार्य में लगता हूं
74 / सम्यक निष्कर्षों का जन्म--धैर्य पूर्ण प्रतीक्षा से
75 / वही है--अब मैं कहां हूं?
76 / तीन सूत्र--साक्षी-साधना के
77 / उसकी ही मर्जी पर सब छोड़ा है
78 / मंजिल के लिए मार्ग का अतिक्रमण आवश्यक
79 / पिछले जन्मों के वायदे
80 / अभी भी कुछ बिगड़ा नहीं है--उठो और चलो
81 / कल का कोई भी भरोसा नहीं
82 / सागर बिच मीन पियासी
83 / स्मरण रखेंः सब शून्य है
84 / खोजो-स्वयं में छिपे प्रभु को
85 / स्वप्नों में मत खोना
86 / श्रद्धा का दुर्लभ द्वार
87 / स्वयं से मिले कि मुझसे मिले
88 / अनन्य (अपने) के साथ कैसा भय!
89 / दीये की परीक्षा--आंधियों में ही
90 / मिलन के पूर्व की विरह पीड़ा
91 / भय अंधकार है और अभय आलोक
92 / स्वयं को पाना हो तो दूसरों पर ज्यादा ध्यान मत देना
93 / एक मिट गए व्यक्ति का रहस्य
94 / अशरीरी के अस्वस्थ होने का उपाय ही कहां है?
95 / नाव सामने हैं, फिर चिंता कैसी?
96 / दो ही विकल्प--आत्म-घात या आत्म-क्रांति
97 / संन्यास संकल्प नहीं, समर्पण है
98 / जो मूर्च्छित है, उसे होशपूर्वक करो
99 / संक्रमण की पीड़ा
100 / स्वयं को पाया तो सब पाया

101 / अवसर बार-बार नहीं आते
102 / समय के पूर्व शक्ति का जागरण हानिप्रद
103 / मन ही अशांति है
104 / निकट में डूब, स्वयं में खोज
105 / अर्थवत्ता का द्वार
106 / अज्ञात- अतींद्रिय मार्ग से सहायता
107 / पीड़ा- बीज के अंकुरित होने की
108 / अब व्यर्थ की बातों में न पड़
109 / सत्य और स्वप्न भी दो नहीं हैं
110 / ध्यान पर अथक श्रम- फलाकांक्षा-रहित
111 / बुद्धि में मत उलझ--तू तो सीधे ध्यान में जा
112 / जीवन उलझन नहीं--मनुष्य ही उलटा है
113 / साक्षी में ही समाधान है
114 / जगाए रखो संकल्प को
115 / ध्यान से प्रश्नों की निर्जरा
116 / संन्यास में छलांग
117 / याचना प्रार्थना की हत्या है
118 / संतुलन: विचार और भाव में, तर्क और श्रद्धा में
119 / ध्यान की गहराई के साथ ही संन्यास-चेतना का आगमन
120 / गहरे ध्यान के बाद ही जाति-स्मरण का प्रयोग
121 / उसके लिए द्वार खुला छोड़ दो स्वयं का
122 / मौन के तारों से भर उठेगा हृदयाकाश
123 / बहुत देर हो चुकी है--आ जाएं अब
124 / आज ही तुम्हारा जीवन है
125 / मध्य में संभालना स्वयं को
126 / अदृश्य और अज्ञात में छलांग
127 / अहंकार की सूक्ष्म लीला को पहचाना
128 / गंभीरता का रोग और जीवन का हल्कापन
129 / विचार किया बहुत--अब ध्यान करें
130 / उद्देश्य नहीं-खोजो जीवन को ही
131 / खूंटिया उखाड़ें: जंजीरें छोड़ें
132 / स्वयं का रूपांतरण ही तपश्चर्या है
133 / चाहिए पागल प्रेम--सरल श्रद्धा और समग्र स्वीकृति
134 / स्वयं से मिलने के पहले बहुत कुछ आएगा और जाएगा
135 / रत्ती भर अहंकार--और सब बेकार
136 / धैर्य और साक्षीत्व--साधक के पाथेय
137 / चेतना के प्रतिक्रमण का रहस्य-सूत्र
138 / ध्यान करें--चिंतन नहीं
139 / ध्यान--धर्म अर्थात मृत से अमृत की यात्रा
140 / व्यक्तित्व के आमूल रूपांतरण पर ही प्रेम घटित
141 / काम रसायनिक है--और प्रेम आध्यात्मिक
142 / अप्रेम के कांटे और प्रेम के फूल
143 / मिटने की तैयारी ही है--प्रेम को पाने की कुंजी
144 / बेशर्त, अपेक्षारहित प्रेम की सुवास
145 / प्रेम को पूजा बना
146 / प्रतीक्षारत प्रेम प्रार्थना बन जाता है
147 / प्रेम प्रार्थना बनते ही दिव्य हो जाता है।
148 / साकार प्रेम और निराकार प्रार्थना
149 / प्रेम-गली अति सांकरी
150 / ढाई आखर प्रेम का, पढ़े सो पंडित होय