Talk:Samund Samana Bund Mein (समुंद समाना बुंद में)

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1971, 1974 Motilal editions 1997 Rebel edition Shailendra's e-book Dates & Places
1. आमुख (Preface by Dr Ramchandra Prasad)
Samund Samana Bund Mein ~ 01 #1 10. सत्यं, शिवं, सुन्दरम् 1. सत्यम्, शिवम्, सुंदरम् 1. सत्यम्, शिवम्, सुंदरम् late 60s
Bharat Ka Bhavishya ~ 15 #2 Bharat Ka Bhavishya: 13. भारत का भविष्य
(Khajana: #15, intro: "15")
3. भारत का भविष्य 2. भारत का भविष्य
  • 2. भारत का भविष्य
  • Bharat Ka Bhavishya 15. भारत का भविष्य
21 Jan 1968, Shanmukhananda Hall, Bombay (*1)
Bharat Ka Bhavishya ~ 16 #3 Bharat Ka Bhavishya: 14. भारत का दुर्भाग्य
(Khajana: #16, intro: "16")
2. भारत का दुर्भाग्य 3. भारत का दुर्भाग्य
  • 3. भारत का दुर्भाग्य
  • Bharat Ka Bhavishya 16. भारत का दुर्भाग्य
1 Oct 1968, Podar College, Bombay (*2)
Samund Samana Bund Mein ~ 04 #4
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1. जीवन का सृजन
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4. जीवन का सृजन
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4. जीवन का सृजन
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late 60s
Samund Samana Bund Mein ~ 05 #5 2. तीन असत्य 5. तीन असत्य 5. तीन असत्य late 60s
Samund Samana Bund Mein ~ 06 #6 3. नई दृष्टि का जन्म 6. नई दृष्टि का जन्म 6. नई दृष्टि का जन्म late 60s
Samund Samana Bund Mein ~ 07 #7 4. धर्म जीवन की कला है 7. धर्म जीवन की कला है 7. धर्म जीवन की कला है late 60s
Bharat Ka Bhavishya ~ 17 Bharat Ka Bhavishya 15. क्या भारत को क्रांति की जरुरत है
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4. क्या भारत को क्रांति की जरूरत है ? Bharat Ka Bhavishya 17. क्या भारत को क्रांति की जरुरत है? 29 Sep 1968, Bombay
Kya Ishwar Mar Gaya Hai ~ 01 Kya Ishwar Mar Gaya Hai #1 Kya Ishwar Mar Gaya Hai? 1. जो मर जाए वह ईश्र्वर ही नहीं 5. क्या ईश्वर मर गया है ? Kya Ishwar Mar Gaya Hai 1. जो मर जाए वह ईश्वर ही नहीं 20 Mar 1967 pm, Cross Maidan, Bombay
Shiksha Mein Kranti ~ 06 (*3) Shiksha Main Kranti #6 Shiksha Mein Kranti 6. युक्रांद क्या है? 6. मैं युवक किसे कहता हूँ ? Shiksha Mein Kranti 6. युक्रांद क्या है? 1967--1970?
Main Mrityu Sikhata Hun ~ 01 Main Mrityu Sikhata Hun #1 Main Mrityu Sikhata Hun 1. आयोजित मृत्यु अर्थात ध्यान और समाधि ‍के प्रायोगिक रहस्य 7. जीवन और मृत्यु Main Mrityu Sikhata Hun 1. आयोजित मृत्यु अर्थात ध्यान और समाधि के प्रायोगिक रहस्य 4 Nov 1969 pm, Bhulabhai Desai Auditorium, Bombay
Jyon Ki Tyon Dhari Dinhi Chadariya ~ 01 Jyon Ki Tyon #1 Jyon Ki Tyon Dhari Deenhi Chadariya 1. अहिंसा 8. अहिंसा Jyon Ki Tyon Dhari Dinhi Chadariya 1. अहिंसा 1 Sep 1970, 8:00, Shanmukhananda Hall, Bombay
Jin Khoja Tin Paiyan ~ 07 Jin Khoja Tin Paiyan #7 Jin Khoja Tin Paiyan 7. कुंडलिनी जागरण व शक्तिपात 9. ताओ
only first part of the event
Jin Khoja Tin Paiyan 7. कुंडलिनी जागरण व शक्तिपात 15 Jun 1970 pm, CCI Chambers, Bombay
notes
(*1) About the date see Talk:Bharat Ka Bhavishya (भारत का भविष्य).
(*2) About place see Talk:Bharat Ka Bhavishya (भारत का भविष्य).
(*3) This event also published in Shiksha Mein Kranti (शिक्षा में क्रांति), ch 6.


Deliberations

Subject/Theme/Category of this book is given by one of the original wiki pages (2) for the book, preserved at "Samundra Samana Boond Mein", as "Letters, Interviews and Press Conferences," not exactly Q&A, not exactly Letters, and there isn't yet a Hindi Press Conference/Interview category. Let's see. "Doc X" gives the subj as Q&A, which seems as sensible and reliable as anything for now. Nothing whatsoever could be found on the net about the 1974 edition from Motilal other than confirming its (one-time) existence. Since the preceding was written, the earlier edition has been found, source Neeten's Osho Source Book Bibliography section. Beyond its earlierness, it adds no new info. Perhaps the 1974 edition is just a reprint?

About the other editions: One source refers to the publisher as "Sadhana Pocket Books" instead of Rebel. May be just an in-house shuffling of names -- as in the fairly frequent and misguided attribution of Rebel or OMI titles to "Sadhana Foundations" (sic) -- or may be a different outfit or at least different imprint. More research needed! Meanwhile, such info as has been found has been merged, ie 2003 Rebel image with ISBN, may or may not be justified.

And re the Bhai Jawahar edition ... this is somewhat from left field but found chez a "usually reliable" source, so included. The source does not provide an ISBN or an indication of what language the book is in. As the publisher is based in Amritsar, and the book is offered for sale in Europe, and Punjabi is more commonly spoken outside India than Hindi, this edition may turn out to be Punjabi. The actual name of the book is still the same, and in Devanagari, so Hindi is for now assumed, but Punjabi does use Devanagari as one of its two alphabets/scripts. More than you wanted to know! -- updated doofus-9 (talk) 00:15, 13 December 2014 (PST)

1997 Rebel edition

(seven chapters)
1. सत्यम्, शिवम्, सुंदरम्
2. भारत का भविष्य
3. भारत का दुर्भाग्य
4. जीवन का सृजन
5. तीन असत्य
6. नई दृष्टि का जन्म
7. धर्म जीवन की कला है
 
 
 

1971 Motilal edition

(ten chapters)
= chap 10
= chap 3
= chap 2
= chap 7 (this is error)
|| 1. अमुख
|| 4. क्या भारत को क्रांति की जरूरत है ?
|| 5. क्या ईश्वर मर गया है ?
|| 6. मैं युवक किसे कहता हूँ ?
|| 8. अहिंसा
|| 9. ताओ

TOC checked with image from the 1997 Rebel edition, added since earlier text above, for now the definitive edition. "Paperback" presumed on the basis of edition not being called a "special deluxe" edition. And while we're here, may as well add to the category possibilities by noting that three of the chapter titles (#2, 3 and 6) are clearly of the "Politics and Society" genre. -- doofus-9 18:15, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Added second column above to compare titles with the ten-chapter 1971 first edition. (Ten chapters includes preface by Dr Ramchandra Prasad.) There are four titles in common between the two editions. More research is needed to determine further correspondences, if any. -- doofus-9 07:13, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Chapter 7 of Motilal matches wrongly. See top table for comparing all editions, audios and matching to events. Hovewer dates are unknown for this series.--DhyanAntar 13:16, 29 April 2020 (UTC)