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=== title === | |||
There seem to be a number of variations on the words of the title, both in the Devanagari and transliterations, not so much in connection with this book but with Kabir's ''doha''. We have Dhai and Dhaai, Aakhar, Akhar and Akshar, and Ka and Ke. Whether one search term will find another is quirky, so try a few to find everything. | There seem to be a number of variations on the words of the title, both in the Devanagari and transliterations, not so much in connection with this book but with Kabir's ''doha''. We have Dhai and Dhaai, Aakhar, Akhar and Akshar, and Ka and Ke. Whether one search term will find another is quirky, so try a few to find everything. | ||
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:One who reads the word of Love, only becomes wise | :One who reads the word of Love, only becomes wise | ||
The info below about ''Dhai Aakhar'' was initially derived from the e-book at Osho World. The same e-book exists on many other sites but they are mainly just copies of OW. There were quite a few anomalies in it which could be called errors without much of a stretch. Consideration of its anomalies below is concerned with dates, numbers and names, not the text. It has been updated with info from a first edition hard copy, with the e-book's errors still noted. | |||
== numbers == | |||
First, numbers: The book purports to have 150 letters, or perhaps it would be better to say it aims at that, as that's how many ''[[Prem Ke Phool (प्रेम के फूल)]]'' has. At any rate, the last one is numbered 150, but there are two places where the counting goes off the rails: There are two number 38s and nothing from 81 to 90. Thus, at this point, the actual count is 141. | First, numbers: The book purports to have 150 letters, or perhaps it would be better to say it aims at that, as that's how many ''[[Prem Ke Phool (प्रेम के फूल)]]'' has. At any rate, the last one is numbered 150, but there are two places where the counting goes off the rails: There are two number 38s and nothing from 81 to 90. Thus, at this point, the actual count is 141. | ||
:UPDATE: Now with Shailendra's e-book info (TOC below), there are clearly 150, and the others were/are just missing from OW's e-book. <small>-- doofus-9 19:08, 9 September 2018 (UTC)</small> | |||
== dates == | |||
There is a basic chronological progression in the e-book, with four exceptions. The first eleven are fairly jumbled chronologically but all from the late 60s (with one of them completely unknown). Similarly, the last nine are jumbled but all of their own same vintage, late 1970 to Mar 1971. In between, they observe chrono order perfectly (Jan 1966 to Mar 1971) with two exceptions: one (#101), a simple and solitary case of out-of-orderness, the other a more complicated class of exceptions: When we get to Jan 1971, there are 31 instances of the year suddenly changing to 1972 and back and forth (out of 84 letters total in those twenty days which would be in almost-perfect order except for the year). The otherwise tight order suggests 1972 is just wrong, and should be 1971 everywhere. There are within January's prodigious output some date typos as well which are relatively easy to discern. See below for a table of dates and recipients, with some notes on details. | |||
It is somewhat inexplicable why ''Dhai Aakhar'' has not been published more recently than whenever. Many of the letters' addressees are well-known in the world of sannyas but many are not. It is a varied collection. One interesting fact that emerges is that Osho wrote three letters to [[Ma Anand Madhu]] and [[Ma Dharm Jyoti]] using those names before he actually "officially" gave them sannyas in Manali in September of 1970. In Madhu's case, one of the letters was as early as Jan 1970, so Osho's movement towards giving sannyas must have been more nuanced than the previous "Big Bang" model presented of a sudden event in Manali. Perhaps lots more is waiting to be discovered in these letters, say by actually reading them. -- updated doofus-9 18:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
===interlude=== | |||
beloved Sarlo, | beloved Sarlo, | ||
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Love, Sarlo -- [[User:Sarlo|doofus-9]] ([[User talk:Sarlo|talk]]) 08:13, 27 December 2014 (PST) | Love, Sarlo -- [[User:Sarlo|doofus-9]] ([[User talk:Sarlo|talk]]) 08:13, 27 December 2014 (PST) | ||
Sarloji, #101 letter in e-book has incorrect date that's why it is out of chronological order. | ===dates and addressees updates=== | ||
Sarloji, #101 letter in e-book has incorrect date that's why it is out of chronological order. <br> | |||
And it is worth to add that 1972 cannot be possible: first edition has been published in Sep 1971 with all 150 letters. | |||
Judging all errors and combined text, e-book on OW is recognized version of the book with many OCR/typed errors and some missing pieces of text (at least in recipients) and some missing letters.--DhyanAntar 12:41, 1 January 2020 (UTC) | Judging all errors and combined text, e-book on OW is recognized version of the book with many OCR/typed errors and some missing pieces of text (at least in recipients) and some missing letters.--DhyanAntar 12:41, 1 January 2020 (UTC) | ||
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About two words "Pol" marked by "**" one friend said: "The word ' pol ' in Gujarati language means... A locality of people where very narrow lanes or streets are there. This is an old structure of the walled city or old city before modern urbanisation took place. And the word... Bagheshwar or bageshwar ... is the name of God."--DhyanAntar 04:51, 3 January 2020 (UTC) | About two words "Pol" marked by "**" one friend said: "The word ' pol ' in Gujarati language means... A locality of people where very narrow lanes or streets are there. This is an old structure of the walled city or old city before modern urbanisation took place. And the word... Bagheshwar or bageshwar ... is the name of God."--DhyanAntar 04:51, 3 January 2020 (UTC) | ||
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And about the linked ([[#dates|**]]) double asterisks in the table below, the link goes back up to the dates section above where its notes explain the dates anomalies in the e-book. -- doofus-9 23:24, 25 January 2020 (UTC) | |||
==addressees== | |||
(Update: dates and addressees rechecked with | (Update: dates and addressees rechecked with physical book, 1971 edition, and updated, now the source of below table is this book. Previous source, e-book from OshoWorld is not exact book as printed and has many errors after when it became digitized.) | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
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36. 25 Oct 1970 [[Sw Krishna Chaitanya]], Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat<br> | 36. 25 Oct 1970 [[Sw Krishna Chaitanya]], Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat<br> | ||
37. 25 Oct 1970 [[Ma Yoga Prem (Indian)|Ma Yoga Prem]], Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat<br> | 37. 25 Oct 1970 [[Ma Yoga Prem (Indian)|Ma Yoga Prem]], Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat<br> | ||
38. 26 Oct 1970 Mr Kashinarayana, co-editor, 'Kesri', Narayana Peth, Poona : previously | 38. 26 Oct 1970 Mr Kashinarayana, co-editor, 'Kesri', Narayana Peth, Poona : previously in e-book there were two number 38's. Other removed as erroneous per info from Shailendra. Physical book, first edition, confirms that this is letter 38. <br> | ||
39. 11 Nov 1970 Mr Nirbhaya Mallik, editor, 'Shmashani Pidhi', 3 Pratap Ghosh Lane, Kolkata-7 <br> | 39. 11 Nov 1970 Mr Nirbhaya Mallik, editor, 'Shmashani Pidhi', 3 Pratap Ghosh Lane, Kolkata-7 <br> | ||
40. 11 Nov 1970 [[Ma Dharm Jyoti]], Bombay <br> | 40. 11 Nov 1970 [[Ma Dharm Jyoti]], Bombay <br> | ||
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49. 10 Jan 1971 [[Ma Yoga Yasha]], Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol<br> | 49. 10 Jan 1971 [[Ma Yoga Yasha]], Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol<br> | ||
50. 11 Jan 1971 Ms Jayamala N. Diddi, 21/3 Bandroad, Poona-1<br> | 50. 11 Jan 1971 Ms Jayamala N. Diddi, 21/3 Bandroad, Poona-1<br> | ||
| 51. 11 Jan 1971 [[Ma Yoga Bhagawati]], Bombay | | 51. 11 Jan 1971 [[Ma Yoga Bhagawati]], Bombay; typo in month (11) in e-book<br> | ||
52. 11 Jan 1971 Mr Arjanlal Narela, 1427, Naya Bazar, Nimach Kaint, Nimach, MP<br> | 52. 11 Jan 1971 Mr Arjanlal Narela, 1427, Naya Bazar, Nimach Kaint, Nimach, MP<br> | ||
53. 11 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Krishna Chaitanya]], Vishvanid, Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat<br> | 53. 11 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Krishna Chaitanya]], Vishvanid, Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat<br> | ||
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59. 13 Jan 1971 S. Shirish Pai, Shiv Shakti, Worli, Bombay-18<br> | 59. 13 Jan 1971 S. Shirish Pai, Shiv Shakti, Worli, Bombay-18<br> | ||
60. 14 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Krishna Chaitanya]], Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol<br> | 60. 14 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Krishna Chaitanya]], Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol<br> | ||
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| 61. 14 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Chaitanya Veetaraga|Mr Kamlesh Sharma]], Brahmanpara, Raipur, Madhya Pradesh<br> | | 61. 14 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Chaitanya Veetaraga|Mr Kamlesh Sharma]], Brahmanpara, Raipur, Madhya Pradesh<br> | ||
62. 14 Jan 1971 Mr. Janakaraya S. Vyas, Sarkari Adhyapan Mandir, Dhaul, dist. Jamnagar (Gujarat)<br> | 62. 14 Jan 1971 Mr. Janakaraya S. Vyas, Sarkari Adhyapan Mandir, Dhaul, dist. Jamnagar (Gujarat)<br> | ||
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67. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Yoga Chinmaya]], Bombay : ‡ seems to be a different letter<br> | 67. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Yoga Chinmaya]], Bombay : ‡ seems to be a different letter<br> | ||
68. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Krishna Chaitanya]], Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol<br> | 68. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Krishna Chaitanya]], Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol<br> | ||
69. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Ma Yoga | 69. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Ma Yoga Nevidita]], (Kumari Rama) Hathikhana Street, Rajkot, Gujarat<br> | ||
70. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Krishna Chaitanya]], Vishvanid, Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat : ‡ seems to be a different letter<br> | 70. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Krishna Chaitanya]], Vishvanid, Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat : ‡ seems to be a different letter<br> | ||
| 71. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Ma Anand Madhu]], Vishvanid, Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol<br> | | 71. 15 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Ma Anand Madhu]], Vishvanid, Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol<br> | ||
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80. 16 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Kanhaiya Gaunrakshak, Mahatma Gandhi Marg, Jalna, Maharashtra<br> | 80. 16 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Kanhaiya Gaunrakshak, Mahatma Gandhi Marg, Jalna, Maharashtra<br> | ||
| 81. 16 Jan 1971 Dr. Hemant Shukla, Junagadh, Gujarat <br> | | 81. 16 Jan 1971 Dr. Hemant Shukla, Junagadh, Gujarat <br> | ||
82. 16 Jan 1971 [[Ma Kusum Bharti|Ms Kusum]] c/o [[Sw Kapil Bharti|Mr Kapil Mohan Chandhok]] | 82. 16 Jan 1971 [[Ma Kusum Bharti|Ms Kusum]] c/o [[Sw Kapil Bharti|Mr Kapil Mohan Chandhok]] Kwality Ice Cream, 90e, Industrial Area, Ludhiana (Punjab)<br> | ||
83. 16 Jan 1971 [[Lala Sundarlal Jain|Mr Sundarlalji Jain]], [[Motilal Banarsidass]], | 83. 16 Jan 1971 [[Lala Sundarlal Jain|Mr Sundarlalji Jain]], [[Motilal Banarsidass]], Bungalow Road, Jawahar Nagar, Delhi-7<br> | ||
84. 16 Jan 1971 Mr Jayantkumar, Lohanipur, Kadamkuan, Patna-3, Bihar<br> | 84. 16 Jan 1971 Mr Jayantkumar, Lohanipur, Kadamkuan, Patna-3, Bihar<br> | ||
85. 16 Jan 1971 Ms Ranjana, c/o Mr Jayantkumar, Lohanipur, Kadamkuan, Patna-3<br> | 85. 16 Jan 1971 Ms Ranjana, c/o Mr Jayantkumar, Lohanipur, Kadamkuan, Patna-3<br> | ||
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89. 21 Jan 1971 S. Shirish Pai, Bombay<br> | 89. 21 Jan 1971 S. Shirish Pai, Bombay<br> | ||
90. 21 Jan 1971 Mr Chinu B. Shah, Ahmedabad<br> | 90. 21 Jan 1971 Mr Chinu B. Shah, Ahmedabad<br> | ||
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| 91. 22 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Mr Gopal Narayana Mohal, Beawar, Rajasthan<br> | | 91. 22 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Mr Gopal Narayana Mohal, Beawar, Rajasthan<br> | ||
92. 22 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Krishna Chaitanya]], Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat<br> | 92. 22 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Krishna Chaitanya]], Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat<br> | ||
93. 22 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Dr. Savitri Patel, P. Killa Pardi, Balasar<br> | 93. 22 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Dr. Savitri Patel, P. Killa Pardi, Balasar<br> | ||
94. 22 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] S. Shirish Pai, | 94. 22 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] S. Shirish Pai, Bombay<br> | ||
95. 22 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Mr Krishnadatta Dikshit, 12/346, Bellasis Bridge, Tardev, Bombay-34<br> | 95. 22 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] Mr Krishnadatta Dikshit, 12/346, Bellasis Bridge, Tardev, Bombay-34<br> | ||
96. 22 Jan 1971 Ms Bakul, Bombay<br> | 96. 22 Jan 1971 Ms Bakul, Bombay<br> | ||
97. 22 Jan 1971 [[Sw Ageh Bharti|Mr Shiv]], Jabalpur, MP<br> | 97. 22 Jan 1971 [[Sw Ageh Bharti|Mr Shiv]], Jabalpur, MP<br> | ||
98. 23 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] a sadhak, Poona<br> | 98. 23 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] a sadhak, Poona<br> | ||
99. 23 Jan 1971 Mr Chinu B. Shah, Ahmedabad : in e-book name presented also as Chuni, | 99. 23 Jan 1971 Mr Chinu B. Shah, Ahmedabad : in e-book name presented also as Chuni, a clear OCR/typo <br> | ||
100. 23 Jan 1971 [[Ma Dharm Samadhi]], Bombay<br> | 100. 23 Jan 1971 [[Ma Dharm Samadhi]], Bombay<br> | ||
| 101. 23 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Ageh Bharti|Mr Shiv]], Jabalpur, MP : e-book has incorrect date "12 Jan 1972" <br> | | 101. 23 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Ageh Bharti|Mr Shiv]], Jabalpur, MP : e-book has incorrect date "12 Jan 1972" <br> | ||
102. 23 Jan 1971 [[Ma Yoga Samadhi]], Rajkot, Gujarat : | 102. 23 Jan 1971 [[Ma Yoga Samadhi]], Rajkot, Gujarat : a different letter, to a different Samadhi: this one is from Rajkot, #100 (Dharm) is from Mumbai <br> | ||
103. 23 Jan 1971 Ms Vimala Sinhal, Nimach, MP<br> | 103. 23 Jan 1971 Ms Vimala Sinhal, Nimach, MP<br> | ||
104. 23 Jan 1971 Ms Aruna, per Mr Sargarilal Sharma, 546/2, Pratapgali Bazar, Amritsar, Punjab<br> | 104. 23 Jan 1971 Ms Aruna, per Mr Sargarilal Sharma, 546/2, Pratapgali Bazar, Amritsar, Punjab<br> | ||
105. 23 Jan 1971 S. Bakul, | 105. 23 Jan 1971 S. Bakul, Bombay<br> | ||
106. 23 Jan 1971 Mr Trilochan Tripathi, Satna, MP<br> | 106. 23 Jan 1971 Mr Trilochan Tripathi, Satna, MP<br> | ||
107. 23 Jan 1971 Mr Narayana (now [[Sw Akshay Saraswati]]), Jabalpur, MP<br> | 107. 23 Jan 1971 Mr Narayana (now [[Sw Akshay Saraswati]]), Jabalpur, MP<br> | ||
108. 23 Jan 1971 Ms Manju Shah, Ghatkopar, Bombay-86<br> | 108. 23 Jan 1971 Ms Manju Shah, Ghatkopar, Bombay-86<br> | ||
109. 23 Jan 1971 Dr. Savitri Patel, Post Killa Pardi, Balasar : ‡ date rendered in digits as 23-171971 in e-book, first 7 is | 109. 23 Jan 1971 Dr. Savitri Patel, Post Killa Pardi, Balasar : ‡ date rendered in digits as 23-171971 in e-book, first 7 is a typo for "-" <br> | ||
110. 24 Jan 1971 Mr Dataram Ramalal, 363, Katha Bazar, Bombay-9<br> | 110. 24 Jan 1971 Mr Dataram Ramalal, 363, Katha Bazar, Bombay-9<br> | ||
| 111. 24 Jan 1971 Jayshri Gaukani, Dwarka, Gujarat<br> | | 111. 24 Jan 1971 Jayshri Gaukani, Dwarka, Gujarat<br> | ||
112. 24 Jan 1971 Pushkar Gaunkani, Dwarka, Gujarat<br> | 112. 24 Jan 1971 Pushkar Gaunkani, Dwarka, Gujarat<br> | ||
113. 24 Jan 1971 Ms Jayavanti Maheshvari, Ghatkopar, Bombay-77 : ‡ date rendered in digits as 24-171971 in e-book, first 7 is | 113. 24 Jan 1971 Ms Jayavanti Maheshvari, (now [[Ma Prema Nivedita]]) Ghatkopar, Bombay-77 : ‡ date rendered in digits as 24-171971 in e-book, first 7 is a typo for "-" <br> | ||
114. 24 Jan 1971 B.L. Naag, stores oficer, collector of inspection (weapon), Jabalpur : ‡ date rendered as 24 1971 in e-book<br> | 114. 24 Jan 1971 B.L. Naag (now [[Sw Advait Bharti]]), stores oficer, collector of inspection (weapon), Jabalpur : ‡ date rendered as 24 1971 in e-book<br> | ||
115. 24 Jan 1971 Mr Chinu B. Shah, 999 Bagheshwar Ki Pol**, Raipur, Ahmedabad-1, Gujarat<br> | 115. 24 Jan 1971 Mr Chinu B. Shah, 999 Bagheshwar Ki Pol**, Raipur, Ahmedabad-1, Gujarat<br> | ||
116. 24 Jan 1971 Dr. Savitri Patel, Post Killa Pardi, dist. Balasar, Gujarat<br> | 116. 24 Jan 1971 Dr. Savitri Patel, Post Killa Pardi, dist. Balasar, Gujarat<br> | ||
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119. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Sevantilal S. Shah, Ahmedabad, Gujarat<br> | 119. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Sevantilal S. Shah, Ahmedabad, Gujarat<br> | ||
120. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Indrajit Shangari, Rani Bazar, Bikaner, Rajasthan<br> | 120. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Indrajit Shangari, Rani Bazar, Bikaner, Rajasthan<br> | ||
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| 121. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Prabodha Khatra, per Ms Soni Batra, 101, Kakori Colony, Barsova Road, Andheri, Bombay-58<br> | | 121. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Prabodha Khatra, per Ms Soni Batra, 101, Kakori Colony, Barsova Road, Andheri, Bombay-58<br> | ||
122. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Arun J. Patel, Pragji Vandravan Building, Jamalgali, Borivali, Bombai-92 : in e-book date stated as 25-171971, first 7 is | 122. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Arun J. Patel, Pragji Vandravan Building, Jamalgali, Borivali, Bombai-92 : in e-book date stated as 25-171971, first 7 is a typo for "-" <br> | ||
123. 25 Jan 1971 Mr P.F. Shah, 1, Woodland Street, Stockton-on-Tees, | 123. 25 Jan 1971 Mr P.F. Shah, 1, Woodland Street, Stockton-on-Tees, Teeside, England<br> | ||
124. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Madhav, Jabalpur, MP<br> | 124. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Madhav, Jabalpur, MP<br> | ||
125. 25 Jan 1971 Ms Manju Shah, c/o Dr. S. Shah, Ghatkopar, Bombay-86<br> | 125. 25 Jan 1971 Ms Manju Shah, c/o Dr. S. Shah, Ghatkopar, Bombay-86<br> | ||
126. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Brahmachari Samdarshi, Merath, UP<br> | 126. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Brahmachari Samdarshi, Merath, UP<br> | ||
127. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Kedar Sinhal, Nimach, MP<br> | 127. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Kedar Sinhal, Nimach, MP<br> | ||
128. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Shyam Durg, c/o Mr S.N. Kasture, | 128. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Shyam Durg, c/o Mr S.N. Kasture, G.P.O., Akola, Maharashtha<br> | ||
129. 26 Jan 1971 Dr. Ramesh Vyas, 9/2, Narth Harsiddhi, Indore-2, MP<br> | 129. 26 Jan 1971 Dr. Ramesh Vyas, 9/2, Narth Harsiddhi, Indore-2, MP<br> | ||
130. 26 Jan 1971 Mr Madhav, Ramesh | 130. 26 Jan 1971 Mr Madhav, Ramesh General Stores, Ganjipura Road, Jabalpur, MP<br> | ||
| 131. 26 Jan 1971 Mr Kantilal T. Sethiya, Puraliya Road, P. Chas, Dhanbad, Bihar<br> | | 131. 26 Jan 1971 Mr Kantilal T. Sethiya, Puraliya Road, P. Chas, Dhanbad, Bihar<br> | ||
132. 26 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Anand Murti]], Mandvi Ki Pol**, Ahmedabad-1<br> | 132. 26 Jan 1971 [[#dates|**]] [[Sw Anand Murti]], Mandvi Ki Pol**, Ahmedabad-1<br> | ||
133. 26 Jan 1971 Mr Bahadursingh Maru, 306 S Rajendranagar, Indore, MP : in e-book date stated as 25-171971, first 7 is | 133. 26 Jan 1971 Mr Bahadursingh Maru, 306 S Rajendranagar, Indore, MP : in e-book date stated as 25-171971, first 7 is a typo for "-" <br> | ||
134. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Madanalal Chaudhari, per - Ch.N. 214/3-8, Jaliyanvala Bazar, Dhobiyan, Amritsar, Punjab<br> | 134. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Madanalal Chaudhari, per - Ch.N. 214/3-8, Jaliyanvala Bazar, Dhobiyan, Amritsar, Punjab<br> | ||
135. 26 Jan 1971 Mr Kedar Sinhal, Nimach, MP<br> | 135. 26 Jan 1971 Mr Kedar Sinhal, Nimach, MP<br> | ||
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== TOC == | |||
Contents are from Shailendra's e-book: | Contents are from Shailendra's e-book: | ||
Revision as of 23:24, 25 January 2020
title
There seem to be a number of variations on the words of the title, both in the Devanagari and transliterations, not so much in connection with this book but with Kabir's doha. We have Dhai and Dhaai, Aakhar, Akhar and Akshar, and Ka and Ke. Whether one search term will find another is quirky, so try a few to find everything.
The "two and a half" refers to the number of characters in the word Prem in Devanagari, an entirely different sense of "letters" than you might expect in the title of a book of letters, but there you go. It is not known whether this ambiguity in meaning exists in Hindi or if the play on words depends on English meanings.
Kabir's doha, or one rendition of it, goes like this:
- Pothi Padh Padh Kar Jag Mua, Pandit Bhayo Na Koye,
- Dhai Aakhar Prem Ke, Jo Padhe so Pandit Hoye
- Reading books everyone died, none became any wise,
- One who reads the word of Love, only becomes wise
The info below about Dhai Aakhar was initially derived from the e-book at Osho World. The same e-book exists on many other sites but they are mainly just copies of OW. There were quite a few anomalies in it which could be called errors without much of a stretch. Consideration of its anomalies below is concerned with dates, numbers and names, not the text. It has been updated with info from a first edition hard copy, with the e-book's errors still noted.
numbers
First, numbers: The book purports to have 150 letters, or perhaps it would be better to say it aims at that, as that's how many Prem Ke Phool (प्रेम के फूल) has. At any rate, the last one is numbered 150, but there are two places where the counting goes off the rails: There are two number 38s and nothing from 81 to 90. Thus, at this point, the actual count is 141.
- UPDATE: Now with Shailendra's e-book info (TOC below), there are clearly 150, and the others were/are just missing from OW's e-book. -- doofus-9 19:08, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
dates
There is a basic chronological progression in the e-book, with four exceptions. The first eleven are fairly jumbled chronologically but all from the late 60s (with one of them completely unknown). Similarly, the last nine are jumbled but all of their own same vintage, late 1970 to Mar 1971. In between, they observe chrono order perfectly (Jan 1966 to Mar 1971) with two exceptions: one (#101), a simple and solitary case of out-of-orderness, the other a more complicated class of exceptions: When we get to Jan 1971, there are 31 instances of the year suddenly changing to 1972 and back and forth (out of 84 letters total in those twenty days which would be in almost-perfect order except for the year). The otherwise tight order suggests 1972 is just wrong, and should be 1971 everywhere. There are within January's prodigious output some date typos as well which are relatively easy to discern. See below for a table of dates and recipients, with some notes on details.
It is somewhat inexplicable why Dhai Aakhar has not been published more recently than whenever. Many of the letters' addressees are well-known in the world of sannyas but many are not. It is a varied collection. One interesting fact that emerges is that Osho wrote three letters to Ma Anand Madhu and Ma Dharm Jyoti using those names before he actually "officially" gave them sannyas in Manali in September of 1970. In Madhu's case, one of the letters was as early as Jan 1970, so Osho's movement towards giving sannyas must have been more nuanced than the previous "Big Bang" model presented of a sudden event in Manali. Perhaps lots more is waiting to be discovered in these letters, say by actually reading them. -- updated doofus-9 18:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
interlude
beloved Sarlo,
marry christmas to you!
I'm an avid reader of your TALK pages and i'm amazed day after day how you (seem) to keep on top of this dog's breakfast of Hindi discourses.
looking forward to another year of total insanity and it's ultimate cure : Sarlo
love -Rudra --Rudra (talk) 06:53, 26 December 2014 (PST)
Namaste!
As the sign in the outhouse says, "We aim to please, you aim too, please."
Yes, let's have another fine year of insanity in Rudra's House of Mirrors. Blessings to all who read and write here.
Love, Sarlo -- doofus-9 (talk) 08:13, 27 December 2014 (PST)
dates and addressees updates
Sarloji, #101 letter in e-book has incorrect date that's why it is out of chronological order.
And it is worth to add that 1972 cannot be possible: first edition has been published in Sep 1971 with all 150 letters.
Judging all errors and combined text, e-book on OW is recognized version of the book with many OCR/typed errors and some missing pieces of text (at least in recipients) and some missing letters.--DhyanAntar 12:41, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
About two words "Pol" marked by "**" one friend said: "The word ' pol ' in Gujarati language means... A locality of people where very narrow lanes or streets are there. This is an old structure of the walled city or old city before modern urbanisation took place. And the word... Bagheshwar or bageshwar ... is the name of God."--DhyanAntar 04:51, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
And about the linked (**) double asterisks in the table below, the link goes back up to the dates section above where its notes explain the dates anomalies in the e-book. -- doofus-9 23:24, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
addressees
(Update: dates and addressees rechecked with physical book, 1971 edition, and updated, now the source of below table is this book. Previous source, e-book from OshoWorld is not exact book as printed and has many errors after when it became digitized.)
1. 18 Jul 1968 Ms Shobhana, now Ma Yoga Shobhana, Bombay |
11. 21 Jan 1966 Jayantibhai, Bombay |
21. 10 Sep 1968 Ms Shobhana (now Ma Yoga Shobhana), Bombay |
31. 12 Jan 1970 Ms Madhu (Dharmishtha Shah), (now Ma Anand Madhu), Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat ** 32. 5 Feb 1970 Ms Madhu Shah (now Ma Anand Madhu), Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat ** |
41. 12 Nov 1970 Mr Mathuraprasad Mishra, Patna, Bihar 42. 14 Nov 1970 Mr Dinesh Shahi, Yuvak Kranti Dal, 16, B/32/10, Bhilai Nagar-1, MP |
51. 11 Jan 1971 Ma Yoga Bhagawati, Bombay; typo in month (11) in e-book 52. 11 Jan 1971 Mr Arjanlal Narela, 1427, Naya Bazar, Nimach Kaint, Nimach, MP |
61. 14 Jan 1971 ** Mr Kamlesh Sharma, Brahmanpara, Raipur, Madhya Pradesh 62. 14 Jan 1971 Mr. Janakaraya S. Vyas, Sarkari Adhyapan Mandir, Dhaul, dist. Jamnagar (Gujarat) |
71. 15 Jan 1971 ** Ma Anand Madhu, Vishvanid, Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol 72. 16 Jan 1971 ** Mr Omprakash Agraval, N. K 175, Charanjitpura, Jalandhar, Punjab |
81. 16 Jan 1971 Dr. Hemant Shukla, Junagadh, Gujarat 82. 16 Jan 1971 Ms Kusum c/o Mr Kapil Mohan Chandhok Kwality Ice Cream, 90e, Industrial Area, Ludhiana (Punjab) |
91. 22 Jan 1971 ** Mr Gopal Narayana Mohal, Beawar, Rajasthan 92. 22 Jan 1971 ** Sw Krishna Chaitanya, Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat |
101. 23 Jan 1971 ** Mr Shiv, Jabalpur, MP : e-book has incorrect date "12 Jan 1972" 102. 23 Jan 1971 Ma Yoga Samadhi, Rajkot, Gujarat : a different letter, to a different Samadhi: this one is from Rajkot, #100 (Dharm) is from Mumbai |
111. 24 Jan 1971 Jayshri Gaukani, Dwarka, Gujarat 112. 24 Jan 1971 Pushkar Gaunkani, Dwarka, Gujarat |
121. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Prabodha Khatra, per Ms Soni Batra, 101, Kakori Colony, Barsova Road, Andheri, Bombay-58 122. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Arun J. Patel, Pragji Vandravan Building, Jamalgali, Borivali, Bombai-92 : in e-book date stated as 25-171971, first 7 is a typo for "-" |
131. 26 Jan 1971 Mr Kantilal T. Sethiya, Puraliya Road, P. Chas, Dhanbad, Bihar 132. 26 Jan 1971 ** Sw Anand Murti, Mandvi Ki Pol**, Ahmedabad-1 |
141. 7 Mar 1971 Pro. Bharat J. Seth, Departament of Botany, Ahmednagar College, Ahmednagar, Maha. 142. 26 Feb 1971 Mrs Basanti Bakhariya, Kheda Camp, Gujarat |
TOC
Contents are from Shailendra's e-book:
अनुक्रम
1 / प्रेम मुक्ति है |
51 / आत्मीय निकटता का रहस्य-सूत्र |
101 / अवसर बार-बार नहीं आते |