Talk:Dhai Aakhar Prem Ka (ढ़ाई आखर प्रेम का)
title
There seem to be a number of variations on the words of the title, both in the Devanagari and transliterations, not so much in connection with this book but with Kabir's doha. We have Dhai and Dhaai, Aakhar, Akhar and Akshar, and Ka and Ke. Whether one search term will find another is quirky, so try a few to find everything.
The "two and a half" refers to the number of characters in the word Prem in Devanagari, an entirely different sense of "letters" than you might expect in the title of a book of letters, but there you go. It is not known whether this ambiguity in meaning exists in Hindi or if the play on words depends on English meanings.
Kabir's doha, or one rendition of it, goes like this:
- Pothi Padh Padh Kar Jag Mua, Pandit Bhayo Na Koye,
- Dhai Aakhar Prem Ke, Jo Padhe so Pandit Hoye
- Reading books everyone died, none became any wise,
- One who reads the word of Love, only becomes wise
Aside from the title stuff, all the information for this page can be found in the e-book at Osho World and other sites which have copied it. There are quite a few anomalies in it which may even amount to errors. Consideration of its anomalies here will be concerned with dates, numbers and names, not the text.
numbers
First, numbers: The book purports to have 150 letters, or perhaps it would be better to say it aims at that, as that's how many Prem Ke Phool (प्रेम के फूल) has. At any rate, the last one is numbered 150, but there are two places where the counting goes off the rails: There are two number 38s and nothing from 81 to 90. Thus, at this point, the actual count is 141.
UPDATE: Now with Shailendra's e-book info (TOC below), there are clearly 150, and the others were/are just missing from OW's e-book. -- doofus-9 19:08, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
dates
And dates: There is a basic chronological progression in the e-book, with four exceptions. The first eleven are fairly jumbled chronologically but all from the late 60s (with one of them completely unknown). Similarly, the last nine are jumbled but all of their own same vintage, late 1970 to Mar 1971. In between, they observe chrono order perfectly (Jan 1966 to Mar 1971) with two exceptions: one (#101), a simple and solitary case of out-of-orderness, the other a more complicated class of exceptions: When we get to Jan 1971, there are 31 instances of the year suddenly changing to 1972 and back and forth (out of 84 letters total in those twenty days which would be in almost-perfect order except for the year). The otherwise tight order suggests 1972 is just wrong, and should be 1971 everywhere. There are within January's prodigious output some date typos as well which are relatively easy to discern. See below for a table of dates and recipients, with some notes on details.
It is somewhat inexplicable why Dhai Aakhar has not been published more recently than whenever. Many of the letters' addressees are well-known in the world of sannyas but many are not. It is a varied collection. One interesting fact that emerges is that Osho wrote three letters to Ma Anand Madhu and Ma Dharm Jyoti using those names before he actually "officially" gave them sannyas in Manali in September of 1970. In Madhu's case, one of the letters was as early as Jan 1970, so Osho's movement towards giving sannyas must have been more nuanced than the previous "Big Bang" model presented of a sudden event in Manali. Perhaps lots more is waiting to be discovered in these letters, say by actually reading them. -- updated doofus-9 18:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC) It is worth to add that 1972 cannot be possible: first edition has been published in Sep 1971 with all 150 letters.--DhyanAntar 12:41, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
beloved Sarlo,
marry christmas to you!
I'm an avid reader of your TALK pages and i'm amazed day after day how you (seem) to keep on top of this dog's breakfast of Hindi discourses.
looking forward to another year of total insanity and it's ultimate cure : Sarlo
love -Rudra --Rudra (talk) 06:53, 26 December 2014 (PST)
Namaste!
As the sign in the outhouse says, "We aim to please, you aim too, please."
Yes, let's have another fine year of insanity in Rudra's House of Mirrors. Blessings to all who read and write here.
Love, Sarlo -- doofus-9 (talk) 08:13, 27 December 2014 (PST)
Sarloji, #101 letter in e-book has incorrect date that's why it is out of chronological order.
Judging all errors and combined text, e-book on OW is recognized version of the book with many OCR/typed errors and some missing pieces of text (at least in recipients) and some missing letters.--DhyanAntar 12:41, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
About two words "Pol" marked by "**" one friend said: "The word ' pol ' in Gujarati language means... A locality of people where very narrow lanes or streets are there. This is an old structure of the walled city or old city before modern urbanisation took place. And the word... Bagheshwar or bageshwar ... is the name of God."--DhyanAntar 04:51, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
addressees
(Update: dates and addressees rechecked with phisical book, 1971 edition, and updated, now the source of below table is this book. Previous source, e-book from OshoWorld is not exact book as printed and has many errors after when it became digitized.)
1. 18 Jul 1968 Ms Shobhana, now Ma Yoga Shobhana, Bombay |
11. 21 Jan 1966 Jayantibhai, Bombay |
21. 10 Sep 1968 Ms Shobhana (now Ma Yoga Shobhana), Bombay |
31. 12 Jan 1970 Ms Madhu (Dharmishtha Shah), (now Ma Anand Madhu), Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat ** 32. 5 Feb 1970 Ms Madhu Shah (now Ma Anand Madhu), Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat ** |
41. 12 Nov 1970 Mr Mathuraprasad Mishra, Patna, Bihar 42. 14 Nov 1970 Mr Dinesh Shahi, Yuvak Kranti Dal, 16, B/32/10, Bhilai Nagar-1, MP |
51. 11 Jan 1971 Ma Yoga Bhagawati, Bombay : typo in month (11) in e-book 52. 11 Jan 1971 Mr Arjanlal Narela, 1427, Naya Bazar, Nimach Kaint, Nimach, MP |
61. 14 Jan 1971 ** Mr Kamlesh Sharma, Brahmanpara, Raipur, Madhya Pradesh 62. 14 Jan 1971 Mr. Janakaraya S. Vyas, Sarkari Adhyapan Mandir, Dhaul, dist. Jamnagar (Gujarat) |
71. 15 Jan 1971 ** Ma Anand Madhu, Vishvanid, Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol 72. 16 Jan 1971 ** Mr Omprakash Agraval, N. K 175, Charanjitpura, Jalandhar, Punjab |
81. 16 Jan 1971 Dr. Hemant Shukla, Junagadh, Gujarat 82. 16 Jan 1971 Ms Kusum c/o Mr Kapil Mohan Chandhok Kwalty Ice Cream, 90e, Industrial Area, Ludhiana (Punjab) |
91. 22 Jan 1971 ** Mr Gopal Narayana Mohal, Beawar, Rajasthan 92. 22 Jan 1971 ** Sw Krishna Chaitanya, Sanskar-Teerth, Ajol, Gujarat |
101. 23 Jan 1971 ** Mr Shiv, Jabalpur, MP : e-book has incorrect date "12 Jan 1972" 102. 23 Jan 1971 Ma Yoga Samadhi, Rajkot, Gujarat : ‡ seems to be a different letter, and may well be a different Samadhi: this one is from Rajkot, #100 (Dharm) is from Mumbai |
111. 24 Jan 1971 Jayshri Gaukani, Dwarka, Gujarat 112. 24 Jan 1971 Pushkar Gaunkani, Dwarka, Gujarat |
121. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Prabodha Khatra, per Ms Soni Batra, 101, Kakori Colony, Barsova Road, Andheri, Bombay-58 122. 25 Jan 1971 Mr Arun J. Patel, Pragji Vandravan Building, Jamalgali, Borivali, Bombai-92 : in e-book date stated as 25-171971, first 7 is to be typo for - |
131. 26 Jan 1971 Mr Kantilal T. Sethiya, Puraliya Road, P. Chas, Dhanbad, Bihar 132. 26 Jan 1971 ** Sw Anand Murti, Mandvi Ki Pol**, Ahmedabad-1 |
141. 7 Mar 1971 Pro. Bharat J. Seth, Departament of Botany, Ahmednagar College, Ahmednagar, Maha. 142. 26 Feb 1971 Mrs Basanti Bakhariya, Kheda Camp, Gujarat |
TOC
Contents are from Shailendra's e-book:
अनुक्रम
1 / प्रेम मुक्ति है |
51 / आत्मीय निकटता का रहस्य-सूत्र |
101 / अवसर बार-बार नहीं आते |