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| 60 || undated || [[Letter written on 22 Nov 1960|in wiki]] || manuscript gives 22 Nov 1960 date.
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| 63 || undated || ||  
| 63 || undated || [[Undated Letter written to Anandmayee 001|in wiki]] ||  
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| 64 || 1960-10-10 || ||  
| 64 || 1960-10-10 || [[Letter written on 25 Nov 1960|in wiki]] || date differs with manuscript: corrected date in there is 25 Nov 1960
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| 65 || undated || ||  
| 65 || undated || [[Undated Letter written to Anandmayee 002|in wiki]] ||  
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| 66 || 1960-11-22 || || same date as P 37, different letter  
| 66 || 1960-11-22 || [[Letter written on 29 Nov 1960|in wiki]] || same date as P 37, different letter. Manuscript has 29 Nov 1960
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| 67 || 1960-12-08 || ||  
| 67 || 1960-12-08 || [[Letter written on 8 Dec 1960|in wiki]] ||  
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| 68 || 1960-12-15-pm || ||  
| 68 || 1960-12-15-pm || [[Letter written on 15 Dec 1960 pm|in wiki]] ||  
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| 69 || 1960-12-15-om || ||  
| 69 || 1960-12-15-om || [[Letter written on 15 Dec 1960 om|in wiki]] ||  
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| 70 || 1960-12-27 || ||  
| 70 || 1960-12-27 || [[Letter written on 27 Dec 1960|in wiki]] ||  
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| 71 || undated || || परिशिष्ट (appendix), 3 parts, to Shanta, Parakhji and Maan
| 71 || undated || [[Letter written on 4 Jan 1961|in wiki]] || परिशिष्ट (appendix), 3 parts, to Shanta, Parakhji and Maan. Manuscript gives the date 4 Jan 1961
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| 72 || 1961-01-03 || ||  
| 72 || 1961-01-03 || [[Letter written on 3 Jan 1961|in wiki]] ||  
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| 73 || undated || ||  
| 73 || undated || [[Undated Letter written to Anandmayee 003|in wiki]] ||  
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| 74 || 1961-01-10 || ||  
| 74 || 1961-01-10 || [[Letter written on 10 Jan 1961|in wiki]] || in the book missing first 3 sentences
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| 75 || 1961-01-18-xm || ||  
| 75 || 1961-01-18-xm || [[Letter written on 18 Jan 1961 xm|in wiki]] ||  
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| 76 || 1961-01-26 || [[Letter written on 26 Jan 1961|in wiki]] || book has transcribed year (as 1969) and other things incorrectly <br> but this is the same letter, written from Sagar
| 76 || 1961-01-26 || [[Letter written on 26 Jan 1961|in wiki]] || book has transcribed year (as 1969) and other things incorrectly <br> but this is the same letter, written from Sagar
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| 77 || 1961-01-30-om || || PS, to Maan
| 77 || 1961-01-30-om || [[Letter written on 30 Jan 1961 om|in wiki]] || PS, to Maan
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| 78 || 1961-01-30-am || ||  
| 78 || 1961-01-30-am || [[Letter written on 30 Jan 1961 am|in wiki]] ||  
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| 79 || 1961-02-07-xm || ||  
| 79 || 1961-02-07-xm || [[Letter written on 7 Feb 1961 xm|in wiki]] ||  
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| 80 || 1961-02-12 || [[Letter written on 12 Feb 1961|in wiki]] || some transcription errors, day mentioned as ravivar (Sunday)
| 80 || 1961-02-12 || [[Letter written on 12 Feb 1961|in wiki]] || some transcription errors, day mentioned as ravivar (Sunday)
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| 81 || 1961-02-22 || || PS, to Padm and Phadke Guruji
| 81 || 1961-02-22 || [[Letter written on 22 Feb 1961 am|in wiki]] || PS, to Padm and Phadke Guruji
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| 82 || 1961-02-22-xm || ||  
| 82 || 1961-02-22-xm || [[Letter written on 28 Feb 1961 xm|in wiki]] || date differs from manuscript: handwriting of it is very close to "22"
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| 83 || undated || ||  
| 83 || undated || [[Undated Letter written to Anandmayee 007|in wiki]] ||  
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| 84 || 1961-03-08-am || ||  
| 84 || 1961-03-08-am || [[Letter written on 8 Mar 1961 am|in wiki]] ||  
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| 85 || 1961-03-19-pm || || rowspan="2"| p 85 & 86 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 85, <br>text runs all the way to bottom, p 86 short, no date, no greeting
| 85-86 || 1961-03-19-pm || [[Letter written on 16 Mar 1961 pm|in wiki]] || here is incorrect date as manuscript has 16th March 1961 pm
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| 86 || undated ||  
| 87 || undated-pm || [[Letter written on 26 Mar 1961 pm|in wiki]] || manuscript gives the date 26 Mar 1961
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| 88 || undated || [[Undated Letter written to Anandmayee 005|in wiki]] || PS format -- to Shri Parakhji, then to Padm, then to Maan, <br>with upcoming dates mentioned at end 28 Mar - 2 Apr
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| 88 || undated ||  || PS format -- to Shri Parakhji, then to Padm, then to Maan, <br>with upcoming dates mentioned at end 28 Mar - 2 Apr
| 89 || 1961-04-15-am || [[Letter written on 15 Apr 1961 am|in wiki]] ||  
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| 90 || 1961-04-25-om || [[Letter written on 25 Apr 1961 om|in wiki]] ||  
| 90 || 1961-04-25-om || [[Letter written on 25 Apr 1961 om|in wiki]] ||  

Revision as of 12:09, 16 December 2019

The Diamond 2002 edition is all we have so far of this book. And that may be all there ever has been. The low production standards found in the first pages (before p 60) are so different from those after p 60, it is hard to imagine a preceding "house" edition (JJK, RF or Rebel) that Diamond just reproduced whole (more or less), as they have done with most of their Osho books. One measure of the lack of professionalism in the book is the inclusion of contact details of Osho's organizers in Mumbai, Delhi and other places, even addresses and phone numbers. This kind of thing is not seen in house editions.

Another indication that this is a Diamond-only edition is the name on the title page, which is not Osho but "Vikal Gautam". Vikal Gautam also writes a long introduction, after Keerti's short introduction, then come 48 pages of crowded, cramped text, quoting Osho liberally but clearly more than his letters. So it could easily be a personal initiative of this Vikal Gautam. Only a good reading by a real Hindi speaker will be able to sort out this first section, especially the part before p 25.

The book has no Table of Contents -- also very un-typical -- so this page is an attempt to organize one. Below are two tables, one for the first 60 pages, the other for the rest of the book, showing which dates of letters are found on which pages of that book, based on scans of the book. Eventually it is hoped that most of the contents can be linked to images of original letters. -- doofus-9 05:13, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Added first edition category. We do not know an ealier edition of this book or other book, which includes all these letters. Unless the opposite will not be proved, this book will stay as first edition.

The question about events: what title we will use? Some manuscripts found in this book as pubished, search "Bhavna" on Letters to Anandmayee.--DhyanAntar 10:01, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Earlier pages

Table entries indicate where passages END, ie where Osho's signature or equivalent appears, with or without a date. ** = Likely too long to be one single letter, whether dated or not. Note also that information between letter content such as dates, location or signature, especially in the earlier pages, may be ambiguous as to which letter it applies to, as there may be no demarcating lines or spacing. Therefore, mistakes may be made. Links will be provided eventually to wiki images of letters, if and when.

Page # Letter Date Wiki
image?
22 undated **
25 1962-08-16 om **    
36 undated **
37 1960-11-22
37 undated
38 1960-11-29
40 1961-07-18
42 1961-07-18
(yes, same date)
44 undated, unsigned
44 undated, short
46 1962-12-12
47 1962-05-22 pm
49 1961-12-02
50 1962-05-09
52 1961-06-08
52 undated?
53 no year-06-30 om
53 undated
56 1961-01-03
57 undated
59 no year-mm-dd xm

Later pages

From here onward, all pages are in a new spacious format, max one letter per page.

Page # Letter Date Wiki
image		 notes
60 undated in wiki manuscript gives 22 Nov 1960 date.
61 1960-10-05 in wiki
62 1960-10-13
63 undated in wiki
64 1960-10-10 in wiki date differs with manuscript: corrected date in there is 25 Nov 1960
65 undated in wiki
66 1960-11-22 in wiki same date as P 37, different letter. Manuscript has 29 Nov 1960
67 1960-12-08 in wiki
68 1960-12-15-pm in wiki
69 1960-12-15-om in wiki
70 1960-12-27 in wiki
71 undated in wiki परिशिष्ट (appendix), 3 parts, to Shanta, Parakhji and Maan. Manuscript gives the date 4 Jan 1961
72 1961-01-03 in wiki
73 undated in wiki
74 1961-01-10 in wiki in the book missing first 3 sentences
75 1961-01-18-xm in wiki
76 1961-01-26 in wiki book has transcribed year (as 1969) and other things incorrectly
but this is the same letter, written from Sagar
77 1961-01-30-om in wiki PS, to Maan
78 1961-01-30-am in wiki
79 1961-02-07-xm in wiki
80 1961-02-12 in wiki some transcription errors, day mentioned as ravivar (Sunday)
81 1961-02-22 in wiki PS, to Padm and Phadke Guruji
82 1961-02-22-xm in wiki date differs from manuscript: handwriting of it is very close to "22"
83 undated in wiki
84 1961-03-08-am in wiki
85-86 1961-03-19-pm in wiki here is incorrect date as manuscript has 16th March 1961 pm
87 undated-pm in wiki manuscript gives the date 26 Mar 1961
88 undated in wiki PS format -- to Shri Parakhji, then to Padm, then to Maan,
with upcoming dates mentioned at end 28 Mar - 2 Apr
89 1961-04-15-am in wiki
90 1961-04-25-om in wiki
91 1962-06-23 written on or sent from a train
92 1962-06-25-om
93 1962-01-25-om
94 1962-02-01-pm
95 1962-02-07
96 1962-02-11-am has a PS, salutation just plain "Maan"
97 1962-02-15-pm
98 1969-02-10-pm year may be mistaken, as on p 76
99 1962-02-24-pm
100 1962-03-02-om
101 1962-03-06-om addressed to Shri Parakh ji
102 1962-03-06
103 1962-03-08
104 1962-03-13
105 1962-03-16
106 1962-03-18-om PS mentions dates in April
107 1962-03-22-pm PS mentions dates in April
108 1962-03-25
109 1962-03-28
110 undated PS mentions dates in April
111 undated
112 1962-04-17
on tour (Ujjain)		 p 112 & 113 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 112,
text runs all the way to bottom, p 113 short, no date, no greeting
113
114 1962-04-28 PS mentions dates in May
115 1962-04-25-xm
116 1962-04-28-am
117 1962-05-08
118 1962-05-11
on tour (Prayag)		 p 118 & 119 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 118,
text runs all the way to bottom, p 119 short, no date, no greeting
119
120 1962-05-15
on tour (Kanpur)		 p 120 & 121 likely one letter running to two pages:
sig bottom of p 120, p 121 only a short PS, no date, no greeting
121
122 1962-05-17-am PS mentions dates in later May
123 1962-05-18 on tour (Narsinhpur), no sig
124 undated no greeting, probably a continuation of 123.
PS mentions upcoming 10-day stay in Gadarwara
125 1962-05-22-om from Gadarwara
126 1962-05-15-am
from Gadarwara		 p 126 & 127 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 126,
text runs all the way to bottom, p 127 short, no date, no greeting
127
128 1962-05-26-pm
from Gadarwara		 p 128 & 129 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 128,
text runs all the way to bottom, p 129 short, no date, no greeting
129
130 1962-05-31
131 1962-06-06 p 131 & 132 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 131,
text runs all the way to bottom, p 132 short, no date, no greeting
132
133 1962-06-08-pm
134 1962-06-11
135 1962-06-14-pm p 135 & 136 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 135,
text runs all the way to bottom, p 136 short, no date, no greeting
136
137 1962-06-17
138 1962-06-21 p 138 & 139 likely one letter running to two pages: sig is on p 138,
but PS runs to bottom, p 139 short, no date, no greeting, no sig
139
140 1962-06-24-am
141 1962-06-25
142 1962-06-27
143 1962-07-28-am
144 1962-07-29-am
145 1962-07-30-xm
146 1962-08-01
147 1962-08-04
148 1962-08-07-xm p 148 & 149 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 148, text
runs to bottom, p 149 text very short, no greeting, PS dated separately
149 1962-08-08-om
150 1962-08-14 on tour (Narsinhpur)
151 1962-08-17-om PS mentions event Aug 31
152 1962-08-26 PS mentions event Aug 31
153 1962-08-27
154 1962-09-05-pm
155 1962-09-09-pm
156 1962-09-14
157 1962-09-21 same date as p 169, different letter
158 1962-09-22 same date as p 166, different letter
159 1962-09-24 p 159 & 160 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 159,
text runs to bottom, p 160 text short, no greeting, no date, PS
160
161 1962-09-25
162 1962-09-27
163 1962-09-29 PS has address & phone in Bombay for "Tarachand Seth, Kothari";
same date as p 168, different letter
164 1962-10-12
165 1962-10-28
166 1962-09-22 same date as p 158, different letter
167 1962-10-23-am
168 1962-09-29 same date as p 163, from Gadarwara, PS says he has "come home" from 24th to 31st
169 1962-09-21 same date as p 157, different letter, from Gadarwara, PS mentions event on 31st
170 1962-11-01 short PS is dated 1962-11-02
171 1962-11-04-pm
172 1962-11-09
173 1962-11-12 noted as "purnima", full moon
174 1962-11-18-pm p 174 & 175 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 174,
text runs to bottom, p 175 no greeting, no date
175
176 1962-11-29
177 1962-03-24-om wrong month?
178 1962-11-27
179 1962-11-30
180 1962-12-03
181 1962-12-08
182 1962-12-11
183 undated solely an events report, upcoming Dec 22+, arrived in Satna Dec 14
184 1962-12-15 from Chhatarpur (MP)
185 1963-01-04-pm p 185 & 186 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 185,
text runs to bottom, p 186 no greeting, no date
186
187 1963-01-08-am p 187 & 188 likely one letter on two pages: sig on p 187, PS one incomplete line,
p 188 no greeting, no date, no sig. Last line (offset) offers blessings to Shanta
188
189 1963-01-10
190 1963-01-16 p 190 & 191 likely one letter on two pages: no sig on p 190, text runs
to bottom, p 191 no greeting, no date. PS mentions events coming Jan 29 - Feb 2
191
192 1963-01-21
193 p 193 & 194 likely one letter on two pages: no sig on p 193, no date, text runs to
bottom, p 194 one line then date, sig + PS (mentions leaving for Udaipur Jan 27)
194 1963-01-25
195 undated p 195 & 196 likely one undated letter on two pages: no sig on p 195, text runs to bottom, p 196 one line then sig + PS (mentions Feb 3)
196
197 1963-02-04
198 1963-02-06 book has year as 1962, presumed mistaken
199 1963-02-11-am
200-1 1963-02-17 in wiki p 200-201 one letter: no sig on p 200, text runs to bottom, p 201 no date, no greeting, PS mentions Mar 2-3 events, + address and phone of Sundarlal Jain. ALERT: Letter image has a different date, 19 Feb!
202-3 1963-02-23-pm in wiki p 202-203 one letter: no date or sig on p 202, text runs to bottom, p 203 text starts in middle of sentence, has date, no greeting, no PS
204-5 1963-03-02-am in wiki p 204-205 one letter, written from Delhi: no sig on p 204, text runs to bottom, p 205 no date, no greeting, PS mentions Mar 8 event
206 1963-03-06-om in wiki
207 1963-03-12-pm in wiki
208 1963-03-18 in wiki
209 1963-03-22-xm in wiki
210 1963-03-27 in wiki
211 1963-03-28-am in wiki
212 1963-04-03 in wiki
213 1963-04-07 in wiki written from Indore, very short
214-5 1963-04-12-om in wiki p 214-215 one letter: no sig on p 214, text runs to bottom, p 215 no date, no greeting
216 1963-04-18-xm in wiki
217 1963-04-23-am in wiki
218 1963-05-16-om in wiki
219 1963-05-24-om written from Gadarwara, p 219 & 220 likely one letter on two pages: no sig on p 219, text runs to bottom, p 220 no date, no greeting
220
221 1963-05-26 in wiki
222 1963-06-03
223 1963-06-04 in wiki
224 1963-06-12
225 1963-06-14 in wiki
226 1963-06-16 in wiki
227 1963-06-20 in wiki
228 1963-06-25-am in wiki
229 1963-07-02-am in wiki book has year as 1993, PS mentions speaking in Allahabad "tomorrow"
230 1963-07-05-om in wiki Book has date as 4th Jul om, but this is the same letter. PS mentions writing on tour from Sachcha Baba Ashram, Arail, a district of Allahabad
231-2 1963-07-16-pm in wiki p 231-232 one letter: no sig on p 231, text runs to bottom, p 232 no date, no greeting
233-4 1963-07-25 in wiki written on tour from Nepanagar MP, p 233-234 one long letter: no sig on p 233, text runs to bottom, p 234 no date, no greeting; PS mentions events 3-5 Aug + contact info for Prafulla Chandra
235 1963-08-11-om
236 1963-08-15 in wiki long PS on reverse side of original is omitted, perhaps not noticed?
237-8 1963-08-18-pm in wiki p 237-238 one letter written on tour from Indore: date but no sig on p 237, text runs to bottom, p 238 no greeting
239-40 1963-08-28 in wiki p 239-240 one letter written on tour from Damoh (MP): date but no sig on p 239, text runs to bottom, p 240 no greeting
241 1963-08-26-pm written to Sharda
242 1963 in wiki "1963" is the only date info in the letter overtly.
243 1963-09-15 in wiki
244 1963-11-19-am PS mentions Taaran Taran birthday celebration 23-25 Dec
245 1963-11-09 in wiki "करनी" written above date, just means "doings", implications unclear.
246 1963-11-29
247 1963-12-01 in wiki PS on reverse side of original is omitted, perhaps not noticed?
248 1963-12-16-am in wiki
249 1963-12-07-om
250 1964-02-21-am p 250 & 251 likely one letter written on two pages: no date, no sig on p 250, text runs to bottom, p 251 date but no greeting
251
252 1964-01-05
253 1964-01-31-am
254 undated
255 1964-01-17 short letter with lots of "........." mentions 23 Feb
256 1964-01-29
257 1964-08-27 PS includes address of Ramanlal C Shah

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