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Revision as of 05:27, 25 December 2019
The Diamond 2002 edition is all we have so far of this book. And that may be all there ever has been. The low production standards found in the first pages (before p 60) are so different from those after p 60, it is hard to imagine a preceding "house" edition (JJK, RF or Rebel) that Diamond just reproduced whole (more or less), as they have done with most of their Osho books. One measure of the lack of professionalism in the book is the inclusion of contact details of Osho's organizers in Mumbai, Delhi and other places, even addresses and phone numbers. This kind of thing is not seen in house editions.
Another indication that this is a Diamond-only edition is the name on the title page, which is not Osho but "Vikal Gautam". Vikal Gautam also writes a long introduction, after Keerti's short introduction, then come 48 pages of crowded, cramped text, quoting Osho liberally but clearly more than his letters. So it could easily be a personal initiative of this Vikal Gautam. Only a good reading by a real Hindi speaker will be able to sort out this first section, especially the part before p 25.
The book has no Table of Contents -- also very un-typical -- so this page is an attempt to organize one. Below are two tables, one for the first 60 pages, the other for the rest of the book, showing which dates of letters are found on which pages of that book, based on scans of the book. Eventually it is hoped that most of the contents can be linked to images of original letters. -- doofus-9 05:13, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Added first edition category. We do not know an ealier edition of this book or other book, which includes all these letters. Unless the opposite will not be proved, this book will stay as first edition.
The question about events: what title we will use? Some manuscripts found in this book as pubished, search "Bhavna" on Letters to Anandmayee.--DhyanAntar 10:01, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Earlier pages
Table entries indicate where passages END, ie where Osho's signature or equivalent appears, with or without a date. ** = Likely too long to be one single letter, whether dated or not. Note also that information between letter content such as dates, location or signature, especially in the earlier pages, may be ambiguous as to which letter it applies to, as there may be no demarcating lines or spacing. Therefore, mistakes may be made. Links will be provided eventually to wiki images of letters, if and when.
Page # | Letter Date | Wiki image? |
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22 | undated ** | |
25 | 1962-08-16 om ** | |
36 | undated ** | |
37 | 1960-11-22 | shortened version of Letter written on 22 Nov 1960 on p 36-37; complete version available on page 60 in the book |
37 | undated | |
38 | 1960-11-29 | this letter is repeated on page 66 too; manuscript of this letter on wiki is Letter written on 29 Nov 1960 |
40 | 1961-07-18 | |
42 | 1961-07-18 (yes, same date) |
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44 | undated, unsigned | |
44 | undated, short | |
46 | 1962-12-12 | |
47 | 1962-05-22 pm | |
49 | 1961-12-02 | on wiki Letter written on 2 Dec 1961; PS not published in the book |
50 | 1962-05-09 | |
52 | 1961-06-08 | this is first part of Letter written on 8 Jun 1961 |
52 | undated? | |
53 | no year-06-30 om | |
53 | undated | |
56 | 1961-01-03 | this is a little shortened version of Letter written on 3 Jan 1961; complete version available on page 72 in the book |
57 | undated | |
59 | no year-mm-dd xm |
Later pages
From here onward, all pages are in a new spacious format, max one letter per page.
Page # | Letter Date | Wiki image |
notes |
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60 | undated | in wiki | manuscript gives 22 Nov 1960 date. |
61 | 1960-10-05 | in wiki | |
62 | 1960-10-13 | ||
63 | undated | in wiki | |
64 | 1960-10-10 | in wiki | date differs with manuscript: corrected date in there is 25 Nov 1960 |
65 | undated | in wiki | |
66 | 1960-11-22 | in wiki | same date as P 37, different letter. Manuscript has 29 Nov 1960 |
67 | 1960-12-08 | in wiki | |
68 | 1960-12-15-pm | in wiki | |
69 | 1960-12-15-om | in wiki | |
70 | 1960-12-27 | in wiki | |
71 | undated | in wiki | परिशिष्ट (appendix), 3 parts, to Shanta, Parakhji and Maan. Manuscript gives the date 4 Jan 1961 |
72 | 1961-01-03 | in wiki | |
73 | undated | in wiki | |
74 | 1961-01-10 | in wiki | in the book missing first 3 sentences |
75 | 1961-01-18-xm | in wiki | |
76 | 1961-01-26 | in wiki | book has transcribed year (as 1969) and other things incorrectly but this is the same letter, written from Sagar |
77 | 1961-01-30-om | in wiki | PS, to Maan |
78 | 1961-01-30-am | in wiki | |
79 | 1961-02-07-xm | in wiki | |
80 | 1961-02-12 | in wiki | some transcription errors, day mentioned as ravivar (Sunday) |
81 | 1961-02-22 | in wiki | PS, to Padm and Phadke Guruji |
82 | 1961-02-22-xm | in wiki | date differs from manuscript: handwriting of it is very close to "22" |
83 | undated | in wiki | |
84 | 1961-03-08-am | in wiki | |
85-86 | 1961-03-19-pm | in wiki | here is incorrect date as manuscript has 16th March 1961 pm |
87 | undated-pm | in wiki | manuscript gives the date 26 Mar 1961 |
88 | undated | in wiki | PS format -- to Shri Parakhji, then to Padm, then to Maan, with upcoming dates mentioned at end 28 Mar - 2 Apr |
89 | 1961-04-15-am | in wiki | |
90 | 1961-04-25-om | in wiki | |
91 | 1962-06-23 | written on or sent from a train | |
92 | 1962-06-25-om | ||
93 | 1962-01-25-om | ||
94 | 1962-02-01-pm | ||
95 | 1962-02-07 | ||
96 | 1962-02-11-am | has a PS, salutation just plain "Maan" | |
97 | 1962-02-15-pm | ||
98 | 1969-02-10-pm | year may be mistaken, as on p 76 | |
99 | 1962-02-24-pm | ||
100 | 1962-03-02-om | ||
101 | 1962-03-06-om | addressed to Shri Parakh ji | |
102 | 1962-03-06 | ||
103 | 1962-03-08 | ||
104 | 1962-03-13 | ||
105 | 1962-03-16 | ||
106 | 1962-03-18-om | PS mentions dates in April | |
107 | 1962-03-22-pm | PS mentions dates in April | |
108 | 1962-03-25 | ||
109 | 1962-03-28 | ||
110 | undated | PS mentions dates in April | |
111 | undated | ||
112 | 1962-04-17 on tour (Ujjain) |
p 112 & 113 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 112, text runs all the way to bottom, p 113 short, no date, no greeting | |
113 | |||
114 | 1962-04-28 | PS mentions dates in May | |
115 | 1962-04-25-xm | ||
116 | 1962-04-28-am | ||
117 | 1962-05-08 | ||
118 | 1962-05-11 on tour (Prayag) |
p 118 & 119 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 118, text runs all the way to bottom, p 119 short, no date, no greeting | |
119 | |||
120 | 1962-05-15 on tour (Kanpur) |
p 120 & 121 likely one letter running to two pages: sig bottom of p 120, p 121 only a short PS, no date, no greeting | |
121 | |||
122 | 1962-05-17-am | PS mentions dates in later May | |
123 | 1962-05-18 | on tour (Narsinhpur), no sig | |
124 | undated | no greeting, probably a continuation of 123. PS mentions upcoming 10-day stay in Gadarwara | |
125 | 1962-05-22-om | from Gadarwara | |
126 | 1962-05-15-am from Gadarwara |
p 126 & 127 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 126, text runs all the way to bottom, p 127 short, no date, no greeting | |
127 | |||
128 | 1962-05-26-pm from Gadarwara |
p 128 & 129 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 128, text runs all the way to bottom, p 129 short, no date, no greeting | |
129 | |||
130 | 1962-05-31 | ||
131 | 1962-06-06 | p 131 & 132 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 131, text runs all the way to bottom, p 132 short, no date, no greeting | |
132 | |||
133 | 1962-06-08-pm | ||
134 | 1962-06-11 | ||
135 | 1962-06-14-pm | p 135 & 136 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 135, text runs all the way to bottom, p 136 short, no date, no greeting | |
136 | |||
137 | 1962-06-17 | ||
138 | 1962-06-21 | p 138 & 139 likely one letter running to two pages: sig is on p 138, but PS runs to bottom, p 139 short, no date, no greeting, no sig | |
139 | |||
140 | 1962-06-24-am | ||
141 | 1962-06-25 | ||
142 | 1962-06-27 | ||
143 | 1962-07-28-am | ||
144 | 1962-07-29-am | ||
145 | 1962-07-30-xm | ||
146 | 1962-08-01 | ||
147 | 1962-08-04 | in wiki | |
148-9 | 1962-08-07-xm | in wiki | p 148-149 one letter: no sig on p 148, text runs to bottom, p 149 text very short, no greeting. Note PS dated separately from letter AND different between book (8 Aug om) and original letter (9 Aug om) |
150 | 1962-08-14 | in wiki | on tour (Narsinghpur) |
151 | 1962-08-17-om | in wiki | PS mentions event Aug 31 |
152 | 1962-08-26 | in wiki | PS mentions events Aug 31 - Sep 3 in Mumbai |
153 | 1962-08-27 | in wiki | |
154 | 1962-09-05-pm | in wiki | |
155 | 1962-09-09-pm | in wiki | |
156 | 1962-09-14 | in wiki | |
157 | 1962-09-21 | in wiki | same date as p 169, different letter; original letter has a short PS, omitted here |
158 | 1962-09-22 | in wiki | same date as p 166, different letter |
159-60 | 1962-09-24 | in wiki | p 159-160 one letter: no sig on p 159, text runs to bottom, p 160 text short, no greeting, no date, PS |
161 | 1962-09-25 | in wiki | original letter has a short PS, omitted here |
162 | 1962-09-27 | in wiki | |
163 | 1962-09-29 | in wiki | PS has address & phones in Bombay for "Tarachand Sant, Kothari" (though name is partially in error); same date as p 168, different letter |
164 | 1962-10-12 | ||
165 | 1962-10-28 | ||
166 | 1962-09-22 | same date as p 158, different letter | |
167 | 1962-10-23-am | ||
168 | 1962-09-29 | same date as p 163, from Gadarwara, PS says he has "come home" from 24th to 31st | |
169 | 1962-09-21 | same date as p 157, different letter, from Gadarwara, PS mentions event on 31st | |
170 | 1962-11-01 | short PS is dated 1962-11-02 | |
171 | 1962-11-04-pm | ||
172 | 1962-11-09 | ||
173 | 1962-11-12 | noted as "purnima", full moon | |
174 | 1962-11-18-pm | p 174 & 175 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 174, text runs to bottom, p 175 no greeting, no date | |
175 | |||
176 | 1962-11-29 | ||
177 | 1962-03-24-om | wrong month? | |
178 | 1962-11-27 | ||
179 | 1962-11-30 | ||
180 | 1962-12-03 | ||
181 | 1962-12-08 | ||
182 | 1962-12-11 | ||
183 | undated | solely an events report, upcoming Dec 22+, arrived in Satna Dec 14 | |
184 | 1962-12-15 | from Chhatarpur (MP) | |
185 | 1963-01-04-pm | p 185 & 186 likely one letter running to two pages: no sig on p 185, text runs to bottom, p 186 no greeting, no date | |
186 | |||
187 | 1963-01-08-am | p 187 & 188 likely one letter on two pages: sig on p 187, PS one incomplete line, p 188 no greeting, no date, no sig. Last line (offset) offers blessings to Shanta | |
188 | |||
189 | 1963-01-10 | ||
190 | 1963-01-16 | p 190 & 191 likely one letter on two pages: no sig on p 190, text runs to bottom, p 191 no greeting, no date. PS mentions events coming Jan 29 - Feb 2 | |
191 | |||
192 | 1963-01-21 | ||
193 | p 193 & 194 likely one letter on two pages: no sig on p 193, no date, text runs to bottom, p 194 one line then date, sig + PS (mentions leaving for Udaipur Jan 27) | ||
194 | 1963-01-25 | ||
195 | undated | p 195 & 196 likely one undated letter on two pages: no sig on p 195, text runs to bottom, p 196 one line then sig + PS (mentions Feb 3) | |
196 | |||
197 | 1963-02-04 | ||
198 | 1963-02-06 | book has year as 1962, presumed mistaken | |
199 | 1963-02-11-am | ||
200-1 | 1963-02-17 | in wiki | p 200-201 one letter: no sig on p 200, text runs to bottom, p 201 no date, no greeting, PS mentions Mar 2-3 events, + address and phone of Sundarlal Jain. ALERT: Letter image has a different date, 19 Feb! |
202-3 | 1963-02-23-pm | in wiki | p 202-203 one letter: no date or sig on p 202, text runs to bottom, p 203 text starts in middle of sentence, has date, no greeting, no PS |
204-5 | 1963-03-02-am | in wiki | p 204-205 one letter, written from Delhi: no sig on p 204, text runs to bottom, p 205 no date, no greeting, PS mentions Mar 8 event |
206 | 1963-03-06-om | in wiki | |
207 | 1963-03-12-pm | in wiki | |
208 | 1963-03-18 | in wiki | |
209 | 1963-03-22-xm | in wiki | |
210 | 1963-03-27 | in wiki | |
211 | 1963-03-28-am | in wiki | |
212 | 1963-04-03 | in wiki | |
213 | 1963-04-07 | in wiki | written from Indore, very short |
214-5 | 1963-04-12-om | in wiki | p 214-215 one letter: no sig on p 214, text runs to bottom, p 215 no date, no greeting |
216 | 1963-04-18-xm | in wiki | |
217 | 1963-04-23-am | in wiki | |
218 | 1963-05-16-om | in wiki | |
219 | 1963-05-24-om | written from Gadarwara, p 219 & 220 likely one letter on two pages: no sig on p 219, text runs to bottom, p 220 no date, no greeting | |
220 | |||
221 | 1963-05-26 | in wiki | |
222 | 1963-06-03 | ||
223 | 1963-06-04 | in wiki | |
224 | 1963-06-12 | ||
225 | 1963-06-14 | in wiki | |
226 | 1963-06-16 | in wiki | |
227 | 1963-06-20 | in wiki | |
228 | 1963-06-25-am | in wiki | |
229 | 1963-07-02-am | in wiki | book has year as 1993, PS mentions speaking in Allahabad "tomorrow" |
230 | 1963-07-05-om | in wiki | Book has date as 4th Jul om, but this is the same letter. PS mentions writing on tour from Sachcha Baba Ashram, Arail, a district of Allahabad |
231-2 | 1963-07-16-pm | in wiki | p 231-232 one letter: no sig on p 231, text runs to bottom, p 232 no date, no greeting |
233-4 | 1963-07-25 | in wiki | written on tour from Nepanagar MP, p 233-234 one long letter: no sig on p 233, text runs to bottom, p 234 no date, no greeting; PS mentions events 3-5 Aug + contact info for Prafulla Chandra |
235 | 1963-08-11-om | ||
236 | 1963-08-15 | in wiki | long PS on reverse side of original is omitted, perhaps not noticed? |
237-8 | 1963-08-18-pm | in wiki | p 237-238 one letter written on tour from Indore: date but no sig on p 237, text runs to bottom, p 238 no greeting |
239-40 | 1963-08-28 | in wiki | p 239-240 one letter written on tour from Damoh (MP): date but no sig on p 239, text runs to bottom, p 240 no greeting |
241 | 1963-08-26-pm | written to Sharda | |
242 | 1963 | in wiki | "1963" is the only date info in the letter overtly. |
243 | 1963-09-15 | in wiki | |
244 | 1963-11-19-am | in wiki | PS mentions Taaran Taran birthday celebration 23-25 Dec |
245 | 1963-11-09 | in wiki | "करनी" written above date, just means "doings", implications unclear. |
246 | 1963-11-29 | in wiki | Date typed in actual letter is 22 Nov |
247 | 1963-12-01 | in wiki | PS on reverse side of original is omitted, perhaps not noticed? |
248 | 1963-12-16-am | in wiki | |
249 | 1963-12-07-om | ||
250 | 1964-02-21-am | p 250 & 251 likely one letter written on two pages: no date, no sig on p 250, text runs to bottom, p 251 date but no greeting | |
251 | |||
252 | 1964-01-05 | ||
253 | 1964-01-31-am | ||
254 | undated | ||
255 | 1964-01-17 | short letter with lots of "........." mentions 23 Feb | |
256 | 1964-01-29 | ||
257 | 1964-08-27 | PS includes address of Ramanlal C Shah |